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SportsSec
07-03-2008, 20:30
In the light of the news today concerning the floodlights at Focus & a possible cash injection to the Peterborough FA - are Northern Star going to be the only local club to benefit from this?:nono:
Number 9
07-03-2008, 20:44
u no it sportsec the pfa will look after northern star and that's it.....
Tommy will be doing it for peterborough though. If theres any wonder why every1 wants u n ur club fail orther than u being the prize pr!ck its cause of things like this!!!!!!
i believe that this will be a great thing for all of peterborough and at the min i cant say no more on the subject yes pns will benefit from this but also all over peterborough teams will also it will be a great boost 4 local football
Number 9
07-03-2008, 21:55
simmy05 how would any other team benefit, its a joke pns benefit from smaller clubs such as ourselves. we pay extortionate fees and fines and pns through around monopoly money!
just an update pns have purchased the lights and with talking within the community all people think this will be gr8 for dogsthorpe and also all of peterborough which myself his the best playing surface in peterborough alot better than london rd the facilaties will be the best the community has seen in years just give every 1 time and then we can judge what happens from there onwards
lol number 9 all clubs would benefit has the floodlights are just not for pns
has your aware most peterborough cup finals are played at chestnut
why would pns benefit from what your club is paying we pay our bills just like another club
Number 9
07-03-2008, 22:05
3 games a year for the community , 20ish for pns my feelings about them won't change. The club doing it for Peterborough take players from our leagues use them, treat um like **** n chuck um back. I'm glad all the funding has gone towards pns lights its not as if decent clubs are folding this year. PNS you do it for peterborough, ill stick with Whittlesey!!!!!
we are not just doing it for pns we have a gr8 programme with a local junior team thats progressing which is deconnians we work together and thats what local football needs.At the end of the day i feel some clubs are jealous of what pns are getting and how the club is emerging but at the end of the day every 1 at pns just dont want the lights 4 themselves
regarding the funding pns have paid for the lights out of there funds
Number 9
07-03-2008, 22:19
Pay your own way who told u that 1,best of luck. I for 1 will laugh if the lights go oyt at pns!
carefree
07-03-2008, 23:33
So whats the problem??
Tommy raised the money and worked a deal out for the floodlites on his own.
we all know the pfa are skint, so they will benifit from Tommy's hard work. as will many others who reach local cup finals ect...
also i know that PNS pay much more to rent their pitch then any other pboro team do. they don't get it for free and as i said the PFA need the cash.
i can see what he is trying to do even if i still think he's a ****** :tpd: at times.
green eyes yeah:soo:
Number 9
08-03-2008, 07:26
carefee- green eyes no chance and as I said fair play for them with the lights but was is it going to do for the pererborough league and all its clubs.... sweet fa!
A good friend of mine told me all is not as meets the eye at pns and we'll leave it at that because its not forum chat. Good luck today if u have a game.
Correct me if I am wrong but how is Peterborough football going to benefit from any changes to Focus, if they have new lights a new stand or even super smashing great top drawer turf ?
Last season (and this is where I may need correcting) weren't the finals played on the other pitch, I didn't get to see many but those I did were on the other pitch so if they didn't let the pitch be used when it's still basically a shell what chance has anybody got of using it when it has been completely finished.
I bet if they build a nice new bar and clubhouse (which I still say should have been done before any lights, stands etc etc) then that will be open for anybody :)
Number 9
08-03-2008, 11:05
Spec exactly my point its not for peterborough its for pns, that's fair enough but don't dress it up as summit it ain't!
Tommy Trophy
08-03-2008, 11:43
Whilst having no interest in the opinion of someone with an obvious personal agenda (i.e. does not like me), I do feel that it is important to put a few facts on the table: -
1. I agree with Spec that the wider footballing community will benefit more when a stand / changing rooms / clubhouse is errected - floodlights is the first step along that road, and it feels that progress is finally being made in those other areas.
2. ALL of the equipment at Focus (Goals, Dugouts, Lawnmowers, Pitch surround) were purchased by PNS not the PFA.
3. PNS pay the PFA for usage of the pitch for both games and training.
4. PNS pay the PFA a % of the bar takings after each game.
5. PNS are paying 100% of the cost of the lights.
Maybe I am biased but I think that the presence of PNS at Focus already benefits Peterborough football generally and every step forward we take will have a positive knock on effect.
So where did PNS get the money for all these things, the sponsorship cannot be that good at ucl level?
I agree with tommy in that Peterborough will benefit, because they as far as I am aware do hold the sunday morning finals there at least.
The idea that the pfa or tommy are doing this for peterborough and in tommys case I do not blame him, we all want to get to as higher level as we can be it as a layer or a manager and good luck to him.
As for the pfa I believe the money we all pay as clubs in fines and fees and the cheek of charging people to watch a sunday morning cup final
all this goes somewhere and it aint on the £2 trophies they give out.
Tommy has worked very hard at pns and fair play if he can get a clubhouse and stand and everything else they want maybe they will become 100% self reliant.
Number 90
08-03-2008, 20:04
Number 9
Must be jealousy on your part mate.
Whittlesey could have achieved everything that PNS (or Eye) have achieved over the years.
In our town and surrorundings we have had players who have trooped out of town to play Ridgeons and UCL over the years but apart from Lee Minett the club have not had a decent manager in the last 20 years to get all the players together and have just one Premier trophy to show for it.
Even now this season there are players like you who are content to hide in the reserves instead of boosting the first team especially when they have struggled over recent weeks
Dont start slagging off Tommy (yeah it aint the most popular man in W'sey) and PNS when yer own club cant get things right
The floodlights are great news for the area opity we aint got any in Whittlesey
Number 9
08-03-2008, 20:31
Number 90 not green eyed at all whittlesey is made of good men and u do an injustice to them all. Ur from whittlesey yet you do nothing for the town apart from slag us off. Well done to pns for the flood lights but again does sweet fa for peterborough league !!!!
bluestar
08-03-2008, 20:36
number 90 - no hidden agenda from me sunshine, good luck to Tommy and all that he wants to achieve - but you on the other hand know jack S**t - get your head out of your arse make yoursself known to me, Mick Burch Snr and I will gladly put you and anyone else straight, with regards to the crap I keep seeing written re Whiittlesey United, and the Reserves - suggest mate you engage your brain before you write your next diatribe,and be a man and come and have a chat the next time we are at home, at least then you will be able to write something with a little more fact rather than second hand gossip:flip:
Number 9
Must be jealousy on your part mate.
Whittlesey could have achieved everything that PNS (or Eye) have achieved over the years.
In our town and surrorundings we have had players who have trooped out of town to play Ridgeons and UCL over the years but apart from Lee Minett the club have not had a decent manager in the last 20 years to get all the players together and have just one Premier trophy to show for it.
Even now this season there are players like you who are content to hide in the reserves instead of boosting the first team especially when they have struggled over recent weeks
Dont start slagging off Tommy (yeah it aint the most popular man in W'sey) and PNS when yer own club cant get things right
The floodlights are great news for the area opity we aint got any in Whittlesey
Own club can't get things right, hide in the reserves??? We are doing ok thank you. Have a good idea who you are No. 90 and whilst this is a forum designed to encourage open debate, you really haven't got a clue have you? Added to that you really shouldn't comment on things you have no idea about.
The club is in the best shape it's been for years and that's because the backbone and structure of the club is designed to drive the club forward.
Like i mention, I have a good idea who you are and its disappointing to hear your comments on here!
Tada!
maccaceltic
09-03-2008, 09:58
No 90 seems to have a chip on his shoulder!!!!
I agree with him that if their is a chance for other clubs to use these facilities then it should be, but all the best to pns for trying to achieve something & i have alot of respect for tommy because he has worked hard to get this up & running.
I am trying to bring back Newham Athletic to saturday football & it gives me the motovation to see what tommy is doing is achievable with a little grafting. So No90 unless you do have proof of what you say it can only be taken with a pinch of salt?
just an update pns have purchased the lights and with talking within the community all people think this will be gr8 for dogsthorpe and also all of peterborough which myself his the best playing surface in peterborough alot better than london rd the facilaties will be the best the community has seen in years just give every 1 time and then we can judge what happens from there onwards
have a day off mate! since the egg chasers have been kicked out the playing surface at london rd is now immaculate and well worthy of the peterborough FA's TOP club.
Number 90
09-03-2008, 20:29
Macca think you have No 9 confused with No 90
I am all for the PNS lights its good but No 9 is moaning once more
Good luck with Newnham need some fresh teams in Pboro League
maccaceltic
09-03-2008, 20:42
lol sorry, so many numbers i get confused
Number 9
09-03-2008, 20:46
number 90 just a quick 1- u claimto be a whittlesey bloke n yet no nothing about the club, you have a dig about us hiding in the reserves deal with it, 2 reserve teamers were on the bench helping saturday. Think knowledge is very smal of Whittlesey.
Why hide behind a name football is about opinions come forward n say who u are?
Dare bet x player who was dropped!
finally u say about only 1 good manager in Whittlesey for 20 years what about me old chap n of course sir donnerly!
Jog On
maccaceltic
09-03-2008, 20:53
number 9, you seem to be a angry individual. i think you could have some good & interesting points but you come across very anti everything?
This forum is suppossed to be helpfull & of course spread your beef with any dissagreements you have. its all open & as far as i can tell you have info of whats going on but with no proof, to me its all chineese whispers?
Number 90
09-03-2008, 20:56
Wot about yer old chap. Lee Minett first rest no where
Number 9
09-03-2008, 21:05
Number 90 - again u hide behind your user name,your choice define a good manager at our level for me-
Because I would say some1 who builds his squad of local youth, gets his players enjoying football, bring out the best in players. Find 1 player past or present who says my old chap and ben don't do this!
Green eyed monster is urself number 90, shall we wia cup 4u!
Number 9
09-03-2008, 21:12
Macca not angry young man at all as any1 who knows me will no. Just highly opinionated.
Also take insults regarding my club personal because many of my family and friends do an awful lot 4 club n town and I will not here them or there work called !
Number 90
09-03-2008, 21:16
Nowt aginst your old man done well but just saying Lee Minett is best by far simple as that
Number 9
09-03-2008, 21:23
Lee is quality and its a game of opinions and your entitled to urs as am I!
Never played for lee only to help out so can't compare, presume u played for um all?
bluestar
09-03-2008, 23:41
Gotta learn to chill son, Lee, is the best manager Whittlesey have had - so far! - but methinks No 90 protesteth too much!! - got his number now mate although it took me a little while to work it out:)
If I am right he did play for me for a while - joined us from Whittlesey, if memory serves he had a bit of a falling out with someone there - not a bad player either, though not as good as he liked to think he was, which was probably why he left Whittlesey in the first place.
will catch up with you for that chat soon No 90, prefer to do my talking face to face, hows the studying going?
Number 90
10-03-2008, 18:58
No sour grapes on my behalf Bluestar.
Firstly confused No9 with a good player in the Ressies but now I know he is your old boy he defitnitely belongs in the stiffs but three or four of his team mates are def first team quality
Lastly never played in your teams Bluestar was never that bad in those days
Number 9
10-03-2008, 19:13
Happy in the stiffs number 90, just like I'm sure ur happy hiding behind a user name...
jealousy is bad mate .... ...
Number 9
10-03-2008, 20:36
Number 90- your not forth coming with your name, ashamed of your views or is it maybe you should be supporting the club. I believe Barrell is the best manager at whittlesey, thats nothing against Lee Minett its just my opinion. Barrell will be in charge for years to come and his success will be massive both on and off the field! Number 90 if ur jealous of the stiffs success this season so far deal with it. The first team will get its young quality players for next year but this year they are learning and gaining experience.
If your that bothered about WHITTLESEY start supporting us not slagging us off.
BLUE BOYS
10-03-2008, 21:55
not sure who number 90 is,lee is a good manager and had great time playing for him when we won the tittle. the side we had then wasnt considerd to be the best tecnically but everybody worked hard for each other to get the results driven on by the manager, and also i feel that the resies are playing so well because they get on well with there manager in ben. also im sure that many of the youngsters will step up and play first team when needed. this season the first team has had a strong squad so many havent made the step up as not been needed
after reading this forum this topic has come up many a time about players not stepping up at the end of the day we all play football to have fun. no90 i think maybe u shud keep ur nose out of stuff you are no longer involved whittlesey are moving forward as a CLUB and from what i have gathered you dont like it because you were pushed out. get over yourself.
bluestar
11-03-2008, 08:29
Quite right no.90, my "old boy" is better off where I can keep an eye on him - wouldn't want him "going off the rails" now would we:whs:
And as I said you always had a higher opinion of your abilities than the rest of us did so perhaps you never did "play" for Bluestar - muppet !
Number 9
11-03-2008, 09:14
Bluestar- Number 90 can be totally ante- reserves but come the start of the season with the new boss on in, every1 will be equal and those who are happy to hide in the reserves( comment is load of crap)will bcome first team regulars. Will u slag um off then Number 90- thought not! Your 2 faced and very jealous 'n' you think we don't know who you are its hard not to you can see the green colour of envy in your face! You won't be comng on the bus to the final then?????
Let's try and get this discussion back onto the original topic rather than a slanging match between No 90 and the whole of Whittlesey
I assume the new facilities at Focus are being applied to the main pitch only, apologies if I am stating the obvious.
Mr Trophy - you have provided a response to some of the points previously discussed, the only remaining question i have is
"Will Peterborough league cup finals (Saturdays and Sundays) at Chestnut Avenue take place on the main pitch?"
No sarcasm or malice behind my post, I am genuinely interested to know the answer
Foxy
Woodgate
11-03-2008, 19:47
Personally I think the finals should be played at Chestnut Ave. Why not? They should be on the middle pitch as this is the best pitch down there. Also, league rep sides should be played there. Obviously when/if a bar is opened would increase revenue. Maybe this could be shared between PNS and PFA. I don’t think we should ‘Diss’ what PNS (Tommy) has done down there but it should be used for all Peterborough footballers. Why not increase the standard of one the adjacent pitches? Maybe this could be used as the Finals/Rep pitches only and not get used during the season.
Incidentally, we need a UCL team in Peterborough; it’s a disgrace that there is only one! With more teams disbanding this season it’s getting worse. Look at Stamford, they have Blackstones and Stamford Town. Even little villages have a team in good standard, Sommersham, Soham, St Neots etc. Why can’t Peterborough?
:soo::soo::soo:
To compete properly in the UCL you need a lot of financial resources and this city is just not geared up to support that.
You either need a bloody good fan base which this city will never have or a Chairman with very deep pockets which are becoming more and more extinct. Every season there are 3 or 4 teams who suddenly have a potful of money and spend it to win the title once and then dissapear to mid table obscurity or even out of the league and all for just one season of glory, where's the vision for the future in that?
The only exception to that was Deeping last season and they have been so underestimated in what they did last year that it is criminal. That certainly won't happen again with the budget they did it with.
So to cut a stupidly long story short! there is not enough financial clout available to have a succesful Peterborough UCL team (and don't go bankrupting yourself Tommy to try and prove me wrong, it won't happen).
And on another point Tom, do you have to finish in the top 2 or 3 to be able to go up into the Prem?
So, in a nutshell, PNS pay to play at Chestnut Avenue. They've paid for the nets, the lawnmower, maintain the pitches etc.., and are purchasing some floodlights out of their own pockets, yet people wish them to implode and there are some keyboard warriors in Whittlesey airing some verbal handbags.
That's all i've managed to ascertain from this thread.
Regarding the cup finals, because of the 'unique' way Peterborough teams are affiliated due to the 4 local FA's, finals could still be elsewhere. Northants - Rushden, Raunds etc... Cambs in Cambridge and so on, or at mutually convenient locations. The main Peterborough league showpiece is London Road, which shouldn't change, and so that just leaves the minor cups and sunday finals to be played at Focus.
I like Andy. Flies into chat-land with a bit of wit or informed opinion every once in a while and then flies away!
Number 9
12-03-2008, 11:02
Andy- the point is these flood lights are for Northern Star, fair play to tommy for moving pns forward but what is it to do peterborough, How is anyone else gonna benefit? Also is PNS completely self reliant I don't think so. So is it somehow our fines etc are helping to fund star? again I don't know but wouldn't bet against it!
Number 9 - yes, the floodlights are for Northern Star. They're purchsing them, so why shouldn't they be?
What is it to do with peterborough? The improvements are being made to a community facility that, let's face it, without PNS would have been boarded up after the sale to the Lions was knocked on the head. PNS are a Peterborough UCL team and all they've ever said is that they wish to be a successful one as Peterborough hasn't had one for donkeys. How they go about it is their own business.
As for their funding, they have financial backers, obviously, and i doubt fine money is finding it's way to them. Why would the Peterborough league give money to a UCL league team? If it's county FA fine money, you're a cambs FA team anyroad. Besides, all would become clear in the league minutes regarding the use of surplus retained profit, or in next year's accounts. If there are discrepancies, someone on the league or local FA committee would have another one torn.
And, before anyone starts, i don't know anybody connected with PNS and have never met that wretched man Tommy. Well, he must be, anyway, the way you lot bitch and whine about him.
Number 9
12-03-2008, 11:31
Firstly never moaned about the flood lights just being for star- moaned about the fact it was being dressed up as if it was for us all.
The Peterborough fa make a fotune of us lower level clubs, a source close to me asked me 1 day- How come pns have done this,that and the other? I replied personal backers, this is where he laughed and said at pns its not all that meets the eye.......
Also pns fund lights etc etc on facilities owened and run by pfa, what happens if pns backers pull out?
The flood lights have never been dressed up by anyone from PNS as being of a benefit to the wider community. I think that assumption has come from the first post in this thread. All PNS (Tommy) have said that they are the first step toward something that would be beneficial to local football.
I don't know who owns Focus, but i'm assuming it's Northants FA. Most teams around here are members of the Peterborough league so any revenue they take through fines etc.. will be theirs, and chuff all to do with the FA. FA fines are payable to whoever a club is affiliated to - in your case Cambs FA. Basically, even if fine money was somehow reaching to PNS via Northants FA, it would only relaly affect teams in the west of the city and beyond.
If it's Northants FA using Northants FA money to refurbish and regenerate an asset of theirs, it's nothing to do with anyone but them. The fact PNS play there is irrelevant. They pay to play there.
Its the PFA that own Focus, as the name is the PFAYCC, although Northants FA have got someone based there
Number 9
12-03-2008, 11:47
Andy we will agree to diss agree before I type summit and drop some1 init.
Good Luck To PNS on your adventure!!
Andy we will agree to diss agree before I type summit and drop some1 init.
Good Luck To PNS on your adventure!!
No worries. I have heard things, too, but couldn't afford the potential legal fees if i posted them here.
Good luck in your finals.
Number 9
12-03-2008, 11:54
Thanks for the best wishes mate.!
See my point with the pfa owning focus! As Clubs playing in the pfa so therefore helping fund focus which in turn help funds pns!
I see your point and what i was trying to say earlier is that if the league are giving money to PNS direct, then it should be shown in minutes - you'd assume it'd be something that would be voted on - or in the accounts at the very least, which i think all member clubs are entitled to see.
If it's the PFA spending their own money on their own asset, that PNS pay to use, then that's their prerogative. The committee are voted in by the member clubs so could be questioned over the issue at the AGM if it's a concern amongst local clubs.
And besides, any spending on Focus is LONG overdue.
Number 9
12-03-2008, 12:13
Andy your right focus is long overdue spruce up! Perkins a pfa affiliated team this year are packing up because loss of venue.. Why couldn't they use the middle or far pitch at focus weekly in order to keep the only remaining old work force team. The reason pns would not allow it! (Don't no if perkins have approached about use of facilities). That is my only issue The Pfa should be helping its affiliated teams not ucl sides!
Also the finals will be played on the middle pitch I belive if so who we looking after........
You're quite right in that the number of pitches at Focus could mean another team playing there, but that would have to be when PNS are away, which would be a bitch to co-ordinate league fixtures, let alone cup draws. The problem being PNS charge for admittance, so another team at home on the same day would be a no-no, plus the fact my bathroom is bigger than the changing rooms, so 4 teams would be a bit tight!
On a tangent - are Fletton fixed up for next season?
On another tangent . . . would planning permission be granted for the lights? If my garden backed onto Chestnut Ave fields, I wouldn't be happy with some massive halogens shining into my sitting room!
This one seems to be going round in circles.
A bit busy at work at moment so please point out to me if im missing the point, but i see it like this.
There seems to be a lot of innuendo suggesting that PNS are being funded by the PFA in a less than transparent way.
So the way i see it, all that needs to happen is Mr Trophy to come on here and catergorically state that they are completely self funded. If he does that then i would suggest people accept his word. Afterall if that is proven to be not the case in the future then it is only PNS who are going to come out of it looking, shall we say a bit " dodgy"
Number 9
12-03-2008, 13:46
My pfa helping northern star(even if only with pitch) when good local clubs resigning?
bluestar
12-03-2008, 15:04
Jeez but your mum has a lot to answer for son !!! Let it go :tpd:- Whilst I might not always have agreed with TC I wish him every success in what he is trying to do, and so should you - Moreover I struggle to see in the scheme of things what real interest Chestnut Avenue has for us -you will have more than enough on your plate once Bert and I get the go ahead for our plans for the clubhouse. Far more exciting times ahead on your own doorstep mate :kissin:
And unlike you my boy, I was in favour of the re-structure, and remember having a debate on this site with Chris Judge who didn't agree with the plan. - I have to say that on this occassion Chris was right - The changes to the rules that allow any number of first team players to fulfill reserve fixtures defeats, for me one of the original objectives fo the changes - which was to make the reserve leagues more competitive.
SportsRes
12-03-2008, 15:09
I have been looking at this forum on and off over the years but have never felt the need to post, even when negative comments have been made about me. However I am moved to respond due to the comments made here.
I find it incredible that anyone who is involved with football in the Peterbough area can suggest that the improvements at the PNS ground will not benefit Peterborough as a whole, footballers and the wider community. If you have passion for football and/or Peterborough surely you must see this as positive step for Peterborough.
In addition if you really want to be in the know why dont you apply to sit on the PFA committee next time round and make a difference in a positive way.
NB. The PFA does not "own" the Focus Centre.
David Sandford
sorry, its on a 50 year lease. I should have known that as i did the write up on the pfaycc site (see my sig)
Mr Sandford - I didn't realise that you were such a poet!
Number 9
12-03-2008, 17:33
Sportres- no disrespect to anyone and it might just be me being stupid but don't see what PNS having lights has got to do with Whittlesey,PSL,Eye Etc,,,,,,?
If PNS have funded these themselves (which I belbelive they have)What has it got to do with us anyway and why are people dressing it up as something its Not?
Tommy Trophy
13-03-2008, 06:46
This is an important thread and it is good to see some thoughful and objective observations - Ok lets get 1 or 2 other facts straight: -
1. Focus is owned by the Council and the PFA and Dogsthorpe Community Association operate on a lease - PNS are not currently party to that, so are mere tenants.
2. Therefore following point 1 through, PNS are not in a position to stop anyone playing on the middle pitch. Indeed throughout the season there are numerous other games played on it (EASY cup, Ladies games etc.)
3. As with most local clubs, PNS have a reserve side and it is a UCL rule that they must play on the same pitch as the first team making the pitch share concept unworkable.
4. PNS receive no funding from the PFA, Peterborough League or any other local body - PNS is a completely self sufficient club.
5. I have chosen to put some of my personal money into the club to support it for this season and well beyond. Yes some of that is ego driven (no sh*t I hear you say!), but if that is how I choose to spend part of my disposable finances than that is no ones business but mine (and Mrs C). The club is certainly not dependant on this.
6. Have to totally disagree with Spec on the Peterborough UCL club. We have 180,000 people in this city, and whilst I agree it is neither cash rich or a strong football town there must be enough players and potential offield support to at least emulate what is happening in Cambridge for gods sake.
7. You need to finish in the top 2 to get promoted, though the 3rd can go up, as happened last year with Kempston, if one of the top 2 does not have the facilities in place to move forward.
8. PNS only has 3 home fixtures combined in April (1 1st team and 2 reserves) and from mid month Focus is pretty much used for cup finals. Just a personal opinion, but I believe that something like 17 finals were played their last year, which is too many, and by the end the pitch was looking a bit sorry for itself.
Hope this clarifies everyones queries!
Good reply Ambassador Tom, my only dispute with that is quite simple really, not because you are disagreeing with me but how do you think you would compete in the UCL Prem financially, I don't dispute the population figures (I wouldn't know and wouldn't care to be honest) but I think most of us who have been around the Peterborough area for a long time will tell you that there are not many locals anymore and how would you encourage people who have no local knowledge to come and support a football team at amateur level who they have never heard of especially when our local Professional side is an odds on bet to go up a league and the 'woodwork' fan base of around 2,000 people will come back and watch them.
As you have said it is nobody's business what you do with your disposable income (and I'm sure Mrs C is absolutely delighted for you to be spending her joint savings on something close to your heart that she has nothing to do with and stops her seeing you for a couple of days a week and makes her shop at Aldi, shop in charity shops, catch the bus because the cars gone, speak to her family via jungle drums because the phone's been cut off etc etc etc), I can think of better things to have an ego trip about (actually I can't because I don't need an ego trip, I know I'm fantastic and good looking and the best footballer I have ever seen, can drinks lashings of alcohol and still appear sober, my only downfall in life was only winning the Jack Hogg Trophy as a manager!! but hey ho we can't all be perfect).
Sounds like an expensive hobby but good luck to you*brk*
Number 9
13-03-2008, 07:54
Tommy that's fine and I wish u every sucess ! Just couldn't understand why it was be dressed up as something it aint!
If pns are just tenants could the lease owners pull the plug without any notice?If so where would this leave pns?
red card
13-03-2008, 09:23
spec! i think your post was complete cr*p! im the best footballer you,ve ever seen!
Tommy Trophy
14-03-2008, 07:34
Number 9 pleased to be having a sensible dialogue with you!
Yes in essence we could be asked to play elsewhere.
Not sure we have dressed this up (though maybe my Media & PR training results in me always putting a positive spin on things) but the fundamental point is that we have PNS AND the facilities at Focus pointing in the right direction finally rather than stagnating.
What sort of an answer is that Tommy? You didn't upset anybody and you are trying to make a friend:soo:
Brendan as many times as I played against you not once did you cause me any problems for the simple reason that you were always running everywhere on the pitch covering your team mates all the time instead of playing in the position you were supposed to so I never saw you!!
I must say though you have to be the fittest old man I have ever come across!
I must say though you have to be the fittest old man I have ever come across!
What would his wife say Spec? If you 2 would like a private (chat) room, just let us know and i'm sure something can be arranged! :bst:
Ground control to Tommy .... come in Tommy !
I think there is a need for a reality check here ..... media & PR training, positive spin, emulating Cambridge ..... you are the manager of a UCL div 1 side, not Barak Obama !
Spec - beleive me, by shopping at Aldi & getting clothes from a charity shop is a step upwards, not downwards, in the Cooper household & I really don't think Mrs C would consider not seeing him 2 days a week a punishment. Like me, you have known Tommy for a long while, and you should know by now that his thought process when doing anything in life is ....... "it's all about me" (not PNS/Focus/Ortonians/Mrs C etc etc etc) - leave him to it and what will be will be. We'll continue to be in his company at times because it makes us feel better about ourselves !
See you next week Tom (if you turn up)
hows the injury comin along brendan?cant believe spec couldnt give u a better compliment than that......
Number 9
14-03-2008, 16:29
Fair comment Tommy, Do u need to achieve promotion this season for your backers to stay?
Which pitch r the finals being played on?
OK Claude he's got a big cock as well:pink:!!
Erm....thanks for that.....i think
red card
14-03-2008, 17:54
hi claude(grant) leg not good mate i see sugeon tuesday, still cant walk, another 8 weeks, im so pis*ed off! about specs comment, did ya notice that he didn,t say i wasn,t the best! lol p.s. what club you playing for this week grant??? ha ha and are you suspended?????? ha ha
red card
14-03-2008, 17:56
i f,ing wish!!!!!!!!!!
Tommy Trophy
14-03-2008, 19:39
Hi Hamdam - just got back from a very profitable day at Fakenham that nearly covered the floodlight cost in 1 hit! (good old Denman, Fiveforfree, Naiad du Misselot, Nenuphar Collonges, Tiger Cry, Buster Hyvonen, Orpen's Art , Marko Jadeo & Capitalise
How was Wednesday and the Helicopter ride to Cheltenham?
Surprised to see Mrs Baines being forced out to work - thought with the price of brocolli you would be raking it in, or has another one of those nags keeled over?
As your only friend, looking forward to being in your company next Saturday evening for Mrs C's birthday - with us playing Daventry Town I suspect there could be a nasty theme running through our Saturday get togethers.
still march mate and no more suspensions im on the straight and narrow from now on mate,cant believe he didnt say u was the best,put u on the spot now spec,who is the best in ur eyes that youve seen in the pboro leagues.......i heard floyd mayweathers gettin 20million to fight the big show at wrestlemania soon,rumour has it 10% of that is bein taken by the pdfl to give to pns????????
Tommy, that’s at least 2 days you’ve had off this week – does your boss know, or did you throw a sicky ?
Glad to hear about your win – still can’t quite work out how you are paying for your gambling or the weekly expenses at PNS when you’ve currently got no income stream ?? – mind you as your previous post stated “ the club is certainly not dependant on this” Sure there must be a simple explanation – care to elaborate ?
Called off the helicopter ride on Tuesday night after a call from air traffic with the Wednesday forecast. Didn’t think that Peterborough could cope with another memorial golf day !
Horses are all OK and tucked up at Mr Cumani’s just waiting to be unleashed from April / May onwards. Still have to name one of them, Backhander is a particular favourite at the moment, unless that is you can come up with a better one ?
Oh what a tangled web we weave.
Tommy Trophy
14-03-2008, 22:09
Yes now had 5 out of my personally agreed 20 days off and looking forward to spending a few of them with you in La Manga, so long as Mrs B has paid off her credit card bill after last weekend! (the train timetable was up the spout - honest!)
Having savings behind me was always going to come in handy, but was just starting to pinch a little!
Still like "Rotten" as the name of the horse.
Had a nightmare with the team this week for some reason, but still hopeful of a result at Buckingham.
5 days off already Tommy and you haven't even launched yet, I didn't take 5 days off in 2 years, perhaps you are misinterpreting what working for yourself is all about although Hamdan Al Stibbington seems to be implying that you no longer are self employed and you have a manager:soo:
Sorry Brendan, Dearo must have been telling porkies :whs:
Claude do you mean at the moment or in the past?
you can all fight over being the best player spec has ever seen, as long as I get the accolade of being the worst.
Spec – I think you will find that he has an extremely silly title of “Chief Operating Officer” which reports in to the company MD . Exactly what he operates I am not quite sure but I am led to believe that he has ultimate responsibility for making sure all pencils are sharp & the water cooler is not empty. He is probably in control of the holiday board as well hence his all too frequent days off.
Tommy – you must have had some substantial savings behind you at the outset to fund all these extra curricular activities. I hope the money doesn’t run out before the end of the season – that would be embarrassing – assuming you couldn’t cover it off elsewhere !
I employed a Chief Operating Officer once but had to make her redundant as all the staff kept bringing their own packed lunch into work and it wasn't financially viable (the only things that benefitted from her were the ducks in the park when the bread had gone mouldy).
I did miss her though because I had to empty my own ashtray but then the smoking ban came in and that was sorted as well.
Can't remember the last time I used a pencil :(
Tommy funding his habits Mr Baines by my 2 excellent tips that I gave him last week at cheltenham that romped home!! Oh and Mrs Cooper!!
As for a horse name - Try "Mr Trophy" as tommy reckons it works for him and he's always lucky!! See you tonite Tommy!!
What's lucky about having to call in The Pied Piper *scd*
JNE - didn't realise Mrs C was running at Cheltenham !
Maybe "Rat Boy" is a better name for the horse !
Don't name it after yourself hamdam! Be original! And shame on you for calling Mrs C a horse!!
Like it spec! I think!!?? COO is Tommy abbreviated title, isn't it what pigeons do - Coo??
If Tommy didn't go to Cheltenham (the fact that he went to Fakenham instead says it all about his sudden misfortune) then what was Mrs C doing romping at Cheltenham or more importantly who was she romping with?
Did you go to Cheltenham JNE?
JNE - think you have got a bit confused with the "rat" theme - it is connected to the Pied Piper comment from Spec - if you're still not sure, ask Tommy tonight. Would never refer to the lovely Mrs C as a horse.
Sorry Hamdam, showing my youthful age!!
Spec, did not go to the Jumps as prefer the flat and so have planned to go to Royal Ascot and York (john smiths) meeting this summer! Hamdam, you or your horses like to be at either?? Need an inside tip! another horse name - Sack Tommy!!!
JNE, will definately be at Royal Ascot for the duration, don't know about the York meeting yet. If the horses are good enough they will be there too. As for inside tips - that's no problem - you just send me a cheque to cover whatever percentage of the training fees your comfortable with & I'll give you the equivalent amount of inside info.
Tommy - you've gone a bit quiet - another name suggestion - "Big fish, little pond"
Tommy Trophy
19-03-2008, 07:24
Sorry for not responding but had a busy day in London yesterday followed by another bloody win and a clean sheet to boot - thank god we have got Dav Town Saturday! (taking tomorrow off to recover)
Have to commend you all on the quality of your banter which I chuckled at this morning - not sure about my title either, and will speak to the boss about it on the way down to Portsmouth today
Hamdan my cheque not stretch that far espeically as I play for Tommy and getting Peanuts!! Also, he gave me no bonus last nite despite the wonderful tips i gave him last week!! He cleaned up I hear!!
Good to hear about ascot!! Am expecting those tips !! Another River Tiber would be nice!! maybe eachway??
Tommy, stop moaning, you love being in 2nd place although any result this sat is a bonus! Please can you stop upsetting my friends though!! ha ha
Answer me one question please: Have PNS applied to go up next year or is finishing 2nd all for the Tommy ego? Love the Big fish, little pond comment also hamdan!!
JNE, No River Tiber at Ascot this year as he was sold to one of Sheik Mohammed’s sons at the backend of last year (then promptly went and won a $120,000 race in Dubai first time out !!) The proceeds of that sale, and another, have been reinvested wisely ready for this years campaign – but only after I managed to shrug off the approaches of a local “celebrity” who wanted me to consider investing in some football venture he was committed to. Apparently things were looking a bit tight & a cash injection would help maintain his 2-3 year plan. For obvious reasons I can’t name him ! Did hear on the grapevine that it was now maybe a 1 year plan??
Also, an interesting question you raise JNE in your last post. Will be curious as to the answer.
sorry bout late response spec,go for best player now and best from ur playin days.and where do u rate brendan?
Claude, I will answer you when the above questions have been answered,I don't want to get side tracked at this crucial stage!!
Tommy's ego would certainly not withstand coming second, he has never come second in his life (4 failed marriages and his present Mrs C romping away at Cheltenham would surely verify that)
Spec, that is just not cricket, nothing Tommy,s backed has ever romped away at cheltenham....
Tommy Trophy
20-03-2008, 14:00
The quality is still high chaps, be interested in how much longer you can keep it up.
Yes Mr Fogg PNS applied to be promoted within the required timeframe.
Given that Daventry Town have been quite open about their approx £1200 a week budget (and good luck to them) and the way that they disposed of Deeping Rangers last week-end, I would consider coming 2nd to them a fantastic achievement in my first season, given that I walked into a club without a single player it could call its own.
Therefore ego just about intact. However we are favourites to come 3rd given that we have played a game more than Daventry United (Budget £700?) and the nature of our last 5 games, and a top 3 finish was the target I set at the start of the season.
Therefore 5th place or lower = chin on the ground (well 1 of them anyway), 4th place - Improvement on last season but not quite enough for a smile, 3rd place = semi satisfied smug grin, 2nd place = full smugness and lording mode.
As you know Spec there have been 2 x Mrs C (both with the same Birthday which is handy) and the current one is out hand washing the Focus to save some money, given the number of clean sheets we are keeping at the moment.
Tommy - the 1st Mrs C all too often uttered the exact same words as you used in the first sentence of you last post !! - hence she became ex Mrs C No 1.
Tommy Trophy
20-03-2008, 16:09
That is top drawer Bainer!
Battered and bruised he withdraws from the contest a beaten man.
F*** me Bainer where did you pull that one out from!! I am sat in the office on my own laughing my b******s off.
Fair play to you Tommy for the hands up approach :lsr:
As you have mentioned the top two's budget (well they will be top 2 tomorrow) how about revealing yours :whs:
Tommy Trophy
12-04-2008, 10:19
The answer to your question Spec is £0
Would be fantastic if we could wrap up 2nd place today, but will be tough all the way over in Daventry - just thinking of my rant subject for Monday's ET Spec - has to be David Toms at Golf - 74 around Thorpe Wood is ridiculous - and so much anger in the lad - need to try and understand his childhood possibly - me and thee were pants wern't we?
Tommy, as discussed yesterday at least you have had the decency to finally reply although I think it was under duress! I think you have done unbelievably well to be challenging for runners up spot with a budget of £0 and my opinion of you as a manager has gone right through the roof, I think your powers of persuasion are absolutely out of this world to be able to entice players like Torch to leave Soham where I know he was on a 3 figure sum of money per game and get him to come and play for you for nothing, nothing short of miraculous:whs:
As for Mr Toms, perhaps he should ask Mr Pierre for advice on how to manage his anger better, as for us being pants Tommy I didn't think we were that good! I am suffering as well today, no food did me in!
Good luck today and I hope you pull it off
Tommy Trophy
13-04-2008, 17:06
Thanks Spec - mission accomplished, though the inspiration from the line was not as strong as it might have been after Friday - I was even getting stick from 1 of the linesman for being so quiet as I had quite a bit of banter with the management team from Rushden & Higham a couple of weeks ago when he did us.
4-1 - good result - good season - floodlights arrived - here's to going 1 step further next season maybe?
Can you put up with it for another season though?
Course he will - Loves the lording! Well done Sat though and good achievement to finish second to a very good Dav Town!
Will PNS be up - I think they will but they need to pay the bond?? £5k I heard??
Hamdan, wise not to invest and with Tommy funds depleted he might try and tap you up again for next year as hear he is staying!! Mrs C will not be happy with that or the prev mention of the other Mrs C, Tommy always thought he was a player - and I do not mean at footy!! ha ha
Just caught up with this thread again after last Friday caused me to check into rehab – haven’t felt that bad for a long while.
Tommy – I think you should get your keyboard checked out. When you quoted your budget the “4” and “5” keys must have got stuck :whs: Reference last Friday, what was more ridiculous than Tomsy’s 74 was your 174 ! Remind me again how many points you contributed to our partnership.
JNE – have done a bit of reverse tapping up with Tommy – from what I understand he is now quite flush, & with his ego running wild with his 2nd place finish, he’s been lured into an equine sponsorship deal !
Tommy Trophy
15-04-2008, 21:09
Happy to sponsor your 4 horses Richie and it will be good publicity if any of them ever run (this one just needs a bit more time!)
Totally battered last Friday and whilst I know I spoke to quite a few people at Fletton I have no recollection what about.
The COO ego is running wild as you can imagine at the moment after my Queen of the South, PNS & Ipswich trio at the weekend, and even managed 30 minutes for our stiffs tonight, linking play from my deep lying role with some aplomb and nearly scoring with my first touch with an audacious chip with the outside of the foot from the edge of the area - have no idea how the keeper got to it. Knees stiffening up already and not looking forward to tomorrow.
Apologies to our forwards for keeping my passes on the floor and somewhere close to them - after playing with Foggy all season you don't need a big change in tactics in your last game do you?
Sponsorship - How you manage that Bainer? Business must be good Tommy or you are after some freebie days out for your new venture!!??
Bainer & Spec - Fancy Golf on Fa Cup final morning followed by a few beers whilst watching the game? Tommy assured me he is getting good at golf after his 174!! Anyone else also invited who thinks they can play like Tommy!!
As for playing for the stiffs - Did not run, moaned at everyone and then ruined another young lads career because he did not pass to him - All in a days work though, eh Tommy!!
Tommy Trophy
18-04-2008, 16:42
I prefer Kevin Robinson's view - "you never stopped running and was always available to pass to" - always said that the Robbo's knew their football.
For some reason my left ankle swelled up like a balloon on Wednesday - must have been the endless crunching tackles I made?
I have decided however that given how I felt Wednesday morning, I wish to announce exclusively on this site that I have decided to retire from international football (those blokes from the Faroes can therefore stop checking to see if Thor the Whore really was related to me)
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