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Number 9
02-03-2008, 15:47
Making a rare appearance on a sunday afternoon I can only say what a discrace. The above person called his side off with 25 mins to go because 1 of his players was sent off for threatening ref. What do u expect wen ur players an arse. This is the reason why I don't play sunday and why we have no refs. Throw the book at the player that was sent off for his reaction and the manager Shane Jenkin.
Everyone gets things wrong and the ref but the ref in this case did not! If a ref at ant point feels threatened he is quite within his right to send a player off.
There is no excuse for walking off a pitc and no player from Real Whittlesey wanted this to happen but all the begging and pleading with the atomist team they did not want to come back on.
Think thats the last time i will play sunday afternoon football. No proffesionism and no support from the clubs its players towards the ref and its league. If i was the ref i would refuse to ref any game involving this team again!!!!!!!!:soo:

Back of the Net
02-03-2008, 19:38
Not the refs or the leagues fault... regardless of standard it's the players/teams that make the league...
Shame it's got to this on a Sunday PM but posts like that won't help will it??? if you dont want to play again in that league then do so without having a pop whilst you leave surely???

Number 9
02-03-2008, 20:00
BOTN- this is a forum and i voiced my opinio, Never blamed the league or the ref(i totally back todays ref Paul Clarke). Unfortunaltly the players do make the league and regardless of how bad things are i cant remember a saturday side walking off. Todays opponents had no repspect for us the fact we paid for the facilties and on mothers day sunday all had other places to be.The game was called off so what a complete waste of time and resources, we will get the win but so what.
mt opinion may not help the leagu but i couldnt give a **** these manager was out of order and he is the former league secetary.If thats his attitude why bother :flip:
If enough people make a point the league will change hopefully..

Surely rather have fewer teams than teams such as these anyway.
Thats my opinionsorry if im not allowed it BOTN:flip:

Back of the Net
02-03-2008, 20:24
hahaha do you feel better now mate??

Plenty of Saturday sides (including right up to prof level) have walked off through dissagrements with officials, dont make it right though!!
Anyhow, i aint involved with Sunday PM so will leave it to ya!!

Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4
02-03-2008, 20:50
Having been another player inovlved in todays game i am in total agreement with NO9, at first i was annoyed with both the ref and the other team but after carefully reflecting on todays events the ref was well with in his rights to call the game off. I feel for the other lads on the opposing team who all wanted to stay and play but Mr Jenkins was adamant the team would play no further part in the game. This to me is an utter joke and he even suggested pulling the team out of the league which does us no favours what so ever being as we have taken 6 points and our closest rivals Ak 11 lost to them. We have already lost 6 points with stamford pulling out through the season.:soo:
I must agree that something must be done but for all concerened i hope that the player involved gets a fine and ban as we all loose our rag sometimes, due to the fact the offence for the original red was never a red( if a player cant question a refs decision then we are all F****D:flip:) and hopefully have the game replayed. Just so everyone is aware we were 2-0 up with 25 mins left to play and in total control and looking to score more goals!!!:whs:

Shane Jenkins what a muppet you are !!!!!!!!!!!!*bkk*

Keith
02-03-2008, 23:45
I can understand your frustration No9.Ref should have abandoned game as soon as he was threatened (but probably didn't expect this situation to go this far),and now let the appropriate county and league do all the dirty work in charging the alleged guilty parties. Trouble is now with the whole side walking off and refusing to finish the fixture which they may think was big and funny at the time but hopefully the smiles will be wiped off their face with the penalties administered if found guilty Also what the players need to remember if the club folds and fails to pay any outstanding monies owed to leagues and counties they are responsible to pay their share if not they can have their registrations withheld.I hope Mr Jenkins explained this to them before they made such a rash choice.I somehow doubt it.

tom flynn
03-03-2008, 07:45
Thought you had your own worries supporting The Rams Keith:whs:

Keith
03-03-2008, 08:51
Hi Tommy,
Got me tickets for the Man U game God help us.Hope your up for trips to Pride Park & Molineux next season as we prepare for our crusade back into the prem.

Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4
03-03-2008, 14:19
See the ET have mentioned yesterdays game, its a shame really that they could not get in contact with Shane as i would love to have read what his thoughts now are after acting so stupidly!!!!!

Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4
03-03-2008, 14:22
Not the refs or the leagues fault... regardless of standard it's the players/teams that make the league...
Shame it's got to this on a Sunday PM but posts like that won't help will it??? if you dont want to play again in that league then do so without having a pop whilst you leave surely???

Sean im pretty sure it was not so long ago we couldnt stop you having a go at the Sun morn league and there board(Mr Titman especially). Dont remeber anybody having a problem with you having an opinion then. Ill let you off though as with age does come short term memory loss*bkk*!!

jb
03-03-2008, 15:25
Sean im pretty sure it was not so long ago we couldnt stop you having a go at the Sun morn league and there board(Mr Titman especially). Dont remeber anybody having a problem with you having an opinion then. Ill let you off though as with age does come short term memory loss*bkk*!!

TOUCHE!

i've heard the sunday pm league wont even exist next season.

Number 9
03-03-2008, 15:52
the league is under subscribed so can understand that, surely the most committed will play sunday am enhancing that league

Back of the Net
03-03-2008, 16:35
Nice try Shaun..... as I said, I'm not involved so will leave it to ya....
By the way it wasn't just myself talking about previous PSMFL events/people - ask Raph and he'll give you access to archived discussions on here that prove plenty of people we in on that topic!!!

Number 9
03-03-2008, 16:53
I STATE AGIAN WASNT slagging tee league the ref just the team for there lack of respect! :nono:

Ross
03-03-2008, 17:00
....By the way it wasn't just myself talking about previous PSMFL events/people - ask Raph and he'll give you access to archived discussions on here that prove plenty of people we in on that topic!!!
You dont need access to view them. The forum is closed, so you cant add replies, but you can view them

geoffsiggins
03-03-2008, 18:07
What happened yesterday was very regrettable for the league and ref. I also referee on a sunday afternoon and if reports are correct i fully back paul in his actions. Yesterday i was linesman for the semi-final Palazzo cup between Cherry Tree v Whittering (5-2) in a game both sides played hard and fair and not abad word too myself Ron or ozzy . Well done lads

Number 9
03-03-2008, 18:48
Reports are correct Ref was quite within his right to send off the player.
Some plaers should keep there mouth shut:whs:

Mick B
03-03-2008, 20:31
Amen to that No.9, especially on the pitch during a game.In my opinion some of the teams wouldn't enhance Sunday Mornings, not with thier disciplinary records.

jb
06-03-2008, 11:08
have to agree mick. would be nice to see a few of the teams get their commuppence in a proper league against proper teams though, but i doubt that they would be welcome.

Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4
06-03-2008, 22:34
JB unless you got anything decent to say then shut it!!!!!!!!!!!

maccaceltic
09-03-2008, 10:06
I dont think it matters what league any of them play in, there needs to be more disipline from managers. To many & to often are you having managers on the sidelines shouting abuse across the pitch. Yesterday i had one shouting acrross the pitch for them to kick me everytime i got the ball!!!!! What kind of twat is he?

There should be bigger fines & longer bans & also club fines for these incidents so in general the club suffers & then they will have to become responsible of controlling there players yes/no ???????

Number 9
09-03-2008, 16:58
Macca, Totally agree we should play cause we enjoy it. We all have work on Monday so the fact some tw@ as you put it was shouting for you to get kicked is a joke. Maybe you should of gone over there and Kicked the tw@*bkk*

On another note played again today as the lads were short and totally different side to the spectrum. AK11 have nothing but bad press but we played them today and they were sound. The game played in right manor and although we lost was fine spectical for the sunday pm league.Finished season off. so we can start going out on a saturday and getting steaming again:beer::beer::beer:. Not that we stayed in anyway:tpd:

jb
09-03-2008, 19:10
JB unless you got anything decent to say then shut it!!!!!!!!!!!

why's that then? it's obvious what teams i was referring to and i believe you have nothing to do them so i dont see your problem.:soo:

maccaceltic
09-03-2008, 20:47
Maybe a club could be deducted points or thrown out of cups for failing to control there players & if its a half descent team then that could cost them dearly!
I think its the only way forward to re intruduce a gentalmans game like it is in the rugby? you never see them f-ing off at referees at every oppertunity.

jimbo91
17-03-2008, 21:23
Making a rare appearance on a sunday afternoon I can only say what a discrace. The above person called his side off with 25 mins to go because 1 of his players was sent off for threatening ref. What do u expect wen ur players an arse. This is the reason why I don't play sunday and why we have no refs. Throw the book at the player that was sent off for his reaction and the manager Shane Jenkin.
Everyone gets things wrong and the ref but the ref in this case did not! If a ref at ant point feels threatened he is quite within his right to send a player off.
There is no excuse for walking off a pitc and no player from Real Whittlesey wanted this to happen but all the begging and pleading with the atomist team they did not want to come back on.
Think thats the last time i will play sunday afternoon football. No proffesionism and no support from the clubs its players towards the ref and its league. If i was the ref i would refuse to ref any game involving this team again!!!!!!!!:soo:
If you would of listened to the convo between the referee and the player i think you'll find he sent him off before he threatened him. allright he shouldnt have done it but the ref shouldnt of had an argument with the player before sending him off after the player was only expressing his point of view(that it should of been a foul on him).

BLUE BOYS
17-03-2008, 22:06
wasnt at the game and dont know alot about it, but to come on here and say that he didnt threaten him untill after he was sent off, come on mate lets be honest threatning an official should never happen. totally undefendable i take it you play for the side involved and could explian how a foul against him involved him getting a sending off that i carnt work out.

Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4
18-03-2008, 18:55
Jimbo1 the player involved is a good mate from way back who was one of the 1st people who made me feel very welcome in Peterborough when i moved here 9 years ago. I will be honest and say he has played football for many a year and has never been thetype to act like that. Buton the incident i was right next to both the ref and the player when it all started and when it all kicked off. I disagree with you on the foul it was 2 players going for a header and won player took and knock in the face(your player) and like most people was a bit angry. He challanged the ref to this as the ref came past him and when the ref told him to get on with it it was not a foul the player walked away and said Bollocks. The ref them sent the player off which i totally and utterly agree with you was uncalled for as player did nothing wrong and did not swear directly at the ref just frustration and disagreed with the decision. But the ref seen it differently.
However no matter what the decision the player should never never threaten a ref and some off the stuff said was a lil rash.
Although due respect to the ref he took it all on the chin the player walked off and all was about to continue when Mr Jenlkins decided to pull the whole team of. This is when the Ref called the game off and phoned the league.
At the end off the day we all hate refs at some point, but we play this game because we love it and without them there would be no game to play. So if anyone thinks they can do a better job(which i do not envy) then put yer money were yer mouth is and give theese guys a break!!!!:clap:

jb
19-03-2008, 15:16
He challanged the ref to this as the ref came past him and when the ref told him to get on with it it was not a foul the player walked away and said Bollocks. The ref them sent the player off which i totally and utterly agree with you was uncalled for as player did nothing wrong and did not swear directly at the ref just frustration and disagreed with the decision.

if you're swearing in disagreement at a decision by the ref then you're indirectly swearing at the ref. by the sounds of things it was harsh to be sent off but the ref followed letter of the law. i and i'm sure most on here know the ref and the first thing he tells both sides whether it be the management or players that any swearing at him and you'll be off. he ALWAYS says that to a representative of both teams before the games he refs so he should have known better really shouldn't he.

Raph
19-03-2008, 16:05
Next year you won't be able to swear FULL STOP on the field of play; in line with new FA by-laws. If you can get a bookmaker to take the bet, it would be worth sticking half a ton on there being the most reds in the Football League next season!

Ross
19-03-2008, 16:10
how many games will be abandoned?

jimbo91
19-03-2008, 18:04
Jimbo1 the player involved is a good mate from way back who was one of the 1st people who made me feel very welcome in Peterborough when i moved here 9 years ago. I will be honest and say he has played football for many a year and has never been thetype to act like that. Buton the incident i was right next to both the ref and the player when it all started and when it all kicked off. I disagree with you on the foul it was 2 players going for a header and won player took and knock in the face(your player) and like most people was a bit angry. He challanged the ref to this as the ref came past him and when the ref told him to get on with it it was not a foul the player walked away and said Bollocks. The ref them sent the player off which i totally and utterly agree with you was uncalled for as player did nothing wrong and did not swear directly at the ref just frustration and disagreed with the decision. But the ref seen it differently.
However no matter what the decision the player should never never threaten a ref and some off the stuff said was a lil rash.
Although due respect to the ref he took it all on the chin the player walked off and all was about to continue when Mr Jenlkins decided to pull the whole team of. This is when the Ref called the game off and phoned the league.
At the end off the day we all hate refs at some point, but we play this game because we love it and without them there would be no game to play. So if anyone thinks they can do a better job(which i do not envy) then put yer money were yer mouth is and give theese guys a break!!!!:clap:


ok so u took a little time to write that but number 1, i never said i thought it was a foul its what the player thought number 2, the ref did not just send him off that easy they started words with eachother which a ref shouldnt do, should just say calm down or ill send you off, and then the player said dont be a big man and then the ref said you wanna see a big man and then pulled out the red card number 3, the ref didnt call the game off "MR Jenkins" did.

boot boy
19-03-2008, 18:14
you should not argue with the ref simple as.not enough respesct shown these days if ya cant take what he says dont play.got told by my dad who played for years that even if the reff was wrong he is still right.its why we have a lack of them simple as.

Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4
20-03-2008, 15:58
Jimbo 1 dont really understand what your point is, everything you said is pretty much what i said but in your own direct opinion. Well apart from who called the game off. If i remember correctly Mr Jenkins walked off the pitch with most of your team and the ref then followed this up buy calling the game off. I also remeber that about half your lads if not more tried to talk your manager into playing the game but buy then the game had been called off buy the REF!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap:

JB yes we do all no the ref in question very well and agree he does say that but i have been involved in certain games with him on quite a few occasions were he has let alot more go. Still think he could have been more diplomatic but not gonna slate the guy as still think he a decent ref, I guess it just depends on his mood!!!:whs:

Raph
20-03-2008, 16:39
What is the name of the ref who is affiliated to the Whittlesey Sunday Afternoon team?

moe
20-03-2008, 19:39
I know Paul and he is a good ref, as for having an argument with a player, not best advised but on the other hand how many times do people slag the ref off for not conversing over a decision?

Calling the game is the referee's decision not the managers end of and if threaterned, well lets just see what happens to the player, because I for one am looking forward to seeing what happens here.

jb
24-03-2008, 12:22
isn't any swearing on council pitches a criminal offence nowadays? i'm sure that happenned a few years back.

Raph
24-03-2008, 13:30
Nobody answered my question about the ref affiliated to Whittlesey's Sun PM team? Just out of curiosity.

Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4
24-03-2008, 18:22
Raph the ref was Paul Clarke!!!

Raph
25-03-2008, 12:17
Thanks! We are not biggest fans of each other . . . but I still don't think that even he should have to fear for his own safety on the football pitch.