View Full Version : Illegal players rule!
carragher
26-01-2008, 20:35
Out of interest what has happened in the past with an illegal player being used in a league game? I can only recall the old all conquering Ortonians side being ousted from the cup for a signing on mix up. Rumours are a strife of an illegal player being involved in a game last week..
sounds like u are just trying to get a comment from a guilty party with that comment buddy.
maybe theres a better way of asking that same question??
Woodgate
27-01-2008, 08:05
Well come on, who done it? Who shot JR?:soo:
Take it from your past posts your something to do with Moulton? Chris Brown hadnt played for Eynesbury up to that point and was fine to play with Jamie in the side as the only ucl player. What you getting at?
Clutching at straws here I think because your side couldnt do the business on the pitch.
The Harrox
27-01-2008, 14:53
Carragher has nothing to do with Moulton (not anymore anyway) so can't imagine it has anything to do with that. Moulton took the defeat graciously although obviously disappointed with the result so I think the old sour grapes thing might be abit unwarranted.
Old Moultonian
31-01-2008, 18:33
'Allegedly' one of Peterborough Sports' substitutes had been transferred from Gedney Hill, but his transfer had not been completed in time for the game vs Moulton. His name also didn't appear on the team sheet, which if true, would suggest that the people behind the scene's played him knowing full well that he wasn't registered. Obviously this remains to be proven, but the 2 spectators from Gedney Hill seemed pretty sure of the facts.
No idea if any of this is actually true, but these were the facts reported to Moulton Harrox, and consequently form the basis of the appeal to the league.
Number 90
31-01-2008, 18:46
Is this illegal players thing rife then cos in Fenland Citizen there's story of Leverington playimng a real march player against Deeping
Have to have photos soon to clear it up
Aint going to begrudge you guys talking about it on here as after all its a Talk Forum and good one at that. Let me clear up what I do know we have no Gedney player in our ranks at the moment and we dont intend on signing/transfering NO Gedney player now or in the future.
I dont understand what they are getting at? I see some Gedney Hill peeps there even say Hi and then alledgedly play one of their so called players before them? Its gone from needing Jamie Graham to beat Moulton Harrox to a Gedney player? Its non-sense it really is and we wont be dragged into any discussion that is going to be twisted I know only to well they have a habit of making mountains out of mole hills! The only uncertainty I did have before the game inrespect of ineligibilty was Chris Brown playing but that appears fine as he hadnt played for Eynesbury up to that point. It was a good win for the lads and there is just a number of people trying their damdest to take it from them because one man and his dog has a chip on his shoulder with their manager.
I just hope I have mentioned the word GEDNEY enough times so it spurts enough publicity for them.
Old Moultonian
01-02-2008, 10:41
Whatever anyone says on here it's up to the league to decide if the allegations are correct, and if so what (if any) the punishment will be. At the end of the day Moulton are only responding to a 3rd party's claims. If they are incorrect we will take the defeat on the chin (as we always do). If the game is replayed there's still no guarantee we won't lose it, so we may still be no better off. I don't think anyone can blame us for trying, bearing-in-mind how tight the league is at the moment. If we don't win the league, we'd rather know it was by fair means.
None of our subs were from Gedney!
Old Moultonian
02-02-2008, 10:25
Maybe that bit's not quite factually correct then, but did any of them play under a false name?:soo:
Number 9
02-02-2008, 11:13
Sounds like straw clutching to me!
Lee, Bratts don't see you having owt to worry about!
Number 90
02-02-2008, 18:25
Moutonian
How many ringers did Pinchbeck play today or they did not need them to win:soo:
Old Moultonian
03-02-2008, 19:11
None as far as we know. We got beaten because on the day we didn't want it as much as they did. it was a poor game played in in awkward conditions, but we can't complain about the result. How did Peterborough Sports get on without Jamie Graham? Did they get hammered again?
Slim Bratts
03-02-2008, 19:39
Dont think Pinchbeck had Jamie playing for them, maybe they had some players from Gedney or summit :soo:
Old Moultonian
03-02-2008, 19:58
Pinchbeck won without ringers or superstars. Shows what you can do with a bit of spirit and hard work. Hopefully they show the same resolve if they still have to play Perkins, Whittlesey or Hampton. Somehow I doubt it.
Number 9
03-02-2008, 20:08
OLD MOULTON - I'm sure Pinchbeck will try the same against all the top sides. Don't think that just cause they played Moulton they gave more-your not unliked are you? lol
You sound bitter Old Moulton? We did lose, our new striker got a hat-trick on his debut but we dont believe that is our problem area. Overall it was largely the same story as yours they 'wanted it' more and took their chances on the day, good set of lads and very sporting management team they got there to.
If any side has to replace 10 players mid way through the season they guna struggle at that level but 3 wins from the 4 in the league games up to now aint a bad return for the lads efforts up to now.
Old Moultonian
03-02-2008, 20:27
Not at all bitter, not sure where you get that from!?! We got exactly what we deserved on Saturday, and against peterborough Sports. In fact, every time we've dropped points this season we got exactly what we deserved. Anyone connected with Moulton on this forum has never suggested any different.
Number 9
03-02-2008, 20:28
Lee- good to see there are still some people gracious in defeat- noteveryone starts false rumors about illegal players when there outplayed
Old Moultonian
03-02-2008, 21:13
Hope that's not aimed at me No. 9. We didn't start the rumours, either on this forum or off it, also they haven't yet been proved false. We also weren't outplayed, and I don't think even Lee would say we were, despite the fact that they deserved to beat us, they didn't outplay us. The game could have gone either way, but their finishing was better than ours. No complaints.
Number 9
03-02-2008, 21:45
Hope that's not aimed at me No. 9. We didn't start the rumours, either on this forum or off it, also they haven't yet been proved false. We also weren't outplayed, and I don't think even Lee would say we were, despite the fact that they deserved to beat us, they didn't outplay us. The game could have gone either way, but their finishing was better than ours. No complaints.
Not at dig at you personally at all, but I presume Carragher is connected to Moulton and yes he did start the rumor on here
Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4
03-02-2008, 22:02
Hope that's not aimed at me No. 9. We didn't start the rumours, either on this forum or off it, also they haven't yet been proved false. .
I have been watching this debate with some interest but have yet to comment. But from what has been said here goes, Old Moultonian the rumours have yet to proved true either but on the whole i do feel it is just sour grapes from the Moulton lads and defo clutching at straws but if im wrong i will admit it. But would anyone have mentioned it had you won, doubt it. If there was an issue it should have been raised on the day with both teams and the ref not a few days later on a football forum.:nono:
As it goes tho im pretty sure if the incedent is not noted in the refs report to the fa then you will not have much chance of getting anything from the fa as you need proof. If this was the case however think how many teams would be like oh yeah they played a ringer just cause we lost!!
Essay over and well done to Lee and boys at PSL doing a good job!!:clap:
Here's one for the citys gossipers pot :str: My wife kindly handed me one of our old answerphone tapes from when I was manager of a certain club its a blinder :whs: Yes their **** does actually smell - all the way to the Lincs FA I'm told, this would give plummy a story and a half!
I aint that kind though luckily for them so they need'nt worry to much I let the sad gits keep talking amongst themselves.
Old Moulton I got the bitter bit from that below: I aint got no hard feelings towards Moulton in fact was quite impressed with your set up, support and your lads. Let the league conclude whatever and be done.
[Quote]How did Peterborough Sports get on without Jamie Graham? Did they get hammered again? AND the bit "without ringers or superstars"[Quote]
Cheers Shaun, by the way.
carefree
03-02-2008, 23:09
well i think that old moultonions view are fine and fair can't see why people are having a dig at him at all?
yes psl did have a good start, the same as i have at my new club, but the bubble has burst now for us both and its down to hard work and getting the balance right ready for the challenge of next season.
what will be will be over the out come of the moulton psl game, whatever way it goe's the psl lads will not lose or gain they won't win anything this season and will maintain their prem status.
good luck to both psl and moulton for the tasks they both face ahead for the rest of the current season..
BLUE BOYS
03-02-2008, 23:10
i havent commented on this either and also not aware which player is being talked about, i no that psl res had if im right a few ex gedney players playing for them as i played with several of them whilst i was there. maybe this is what was deing talked about and mis understood as them thinking they was talking about be nice to see the outcome of this debate when sorted
Al - dont know about your task ahead, but ours is looking pretty big lol....n moulton yea we got beat saturday 5-3, great game for goals lol...we went 1 up, then 1-1, then 1-2 down at halftime, lads got the rollicking and 2nd half we had 80% posession play, got the game back 2-2, then went 2-3 down, then back to 3-3, we had 3 1v1 and spooned em all otherwise that would have been game over for uppingham, but fair play to them they dug deep and got 2 late goals and fully deserved their win.
Like lee says people move on to other clubs etc and it takes time we have put a bunch of players together over 6 weeks, without training together and never having played together, so give em time n they will come good...
No comments on the moulton v psl game as wasnt there, but i am sure every signing we have done this season has all been above board and correct...I dont think moulton are bitter at all and if we was in the same position as them in the league ( wishfull thinking ) and something was mentioned to me i would do exactly the same as they are doing...
The Harrox
04-02-2008, 09:35
Not really got too involved with this but as i said in a previous post, carragher is nothing to do with Moulton. He used to be until a couple of months ago !!!!!!!!!!!!! Now he is involved with a team who are also involved in the race for the title.
Also from what I understand about this issue is that there was one particular player who was on the team sheet who he "allegedly" wasn't. And the names in the paper on the Tuesday were different (misprint maybe :soo:). This is no way a dig at Sports. Mistaken identity can happen, misprints can happen or is there other motives ???????
Now from Lee's posts I think he might have a small idea where this came from which was not mentioned to anybody at Moulton on the day as the person who took the call was not present at the match. The call came through 3 or 4 days after the game !!!!!!!
I dont think there has been any sour grapes because of the result. Sports battled hard and it was a moment of genius from Jamie that won them the game. What more can you say????????
We are in the real world now and if you lose and someone tells you the other team "allegedly" played a player under a different name, then what do you do??????? If you win nobody gives a ****e. Because the attitude then is well you played a ringer and still got beat. Like Bratts said, he would do the same thing. Would actually be interested to see who wouldn't say anything and let it pass.
Again I am another who has read this thread with interest and not commented, I don't think there is any sour grapes from Moulton or any stirring going on, they have just posted an opinion and just because a few people take it personally and come back with a load of crap it shouldn't stop people offering opinions.
I would have raised a concern if people watching the game then ring the secretary after seeing a different teamsheet published, whether you win lose or draw makes no difference this sort of thing needs stamping out.
Carefree is spot on with his view and what will be will be, nobody is pointing the finger at anybody, it was an observation that has been picked up by the league and it is for them to deal with it.
If we can't take criticism then the Peterborough Football League is not the place for you (especially with this website!!)
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