HAPPY BIRTHDAY FLYNNY

[carefree]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOMMY FLYNN :pty2: 50 TODAY!!! :pty2: :pty:

NOW YOUR AGE MATCHES YOUR VITAL STATISTICS 50-50-50

BEST WISHES MUCKER :beer: AL

[tom flynn]

Cheers Al, i had a quiet :beer: last night.

[Tommy Trophy]

You kept that quiet Flynny - hard luck to Wolves today, though important game in the Championship ended up all square - managed to upset a load of Naaarwich Budgies today when jumping up and celebrating brave Tractor Boys equalizer - one even got taken out by Stewards - I was in a private box for Gods sake!

Felt a bit sorry for Paul Gale the ref yesterday, as the ball was a bit of an irrelevance at times and the retaliation was poor from both sides - obviously a lot at stake and passions were running high. Not helped by some of the followers of both teams, but it made for compulsive viewing!

PSL should have been 4 up at half time, with Moulton woeful in first half. They came out much better in 2nd half and Phil Groves scored with a carbon copy of the fluke cross with which PSL took the lead through Ronnie Leishman.

After the double sending off, it was difficult at times to tell who had 9 men - PSL kept a great shape and Gareth had 2 golden opportunities to seal it. Definite pen at the other end with 2 minutes left and though Bobby Patterson had scored with all previous 12 this season, his penalty was very weak - not sure his head would have been completely there after earlier incident, but hindsight is a great thing.

Still not completely over and PSL will need to be to keep their heads at Leverington next week who are very capable on their day.

Keep the faith Tommy - look out for our feeder club Colchester in your wing mirrors!

[tom flynn]

Well Tommy, what a weekend of emotions for myself.A case of 2 late penalties, Wolves and PSL.someone asked me which was the more important one for me,no doubt i said,Sports one on Saturday was my reply.I must admit i had a great time in the 3 Hs yesterday watching Wolves.Billy Burton was in there and the banter was very good.But hey,I can do nothing about Wolves but can at Sports.Still very interesting but still see us as challengers at the moment.A lot of hard work still to do.Moulton have no easy task either going to Whittlesey, so all to play for and it makes the league more exciting going into the last weeks.I to thought the game should have been over by half time but in the end fair play to the players who stayed on the pitch for the hard work they put in.They deserved something from the game and justifyably got it in the end.I automatically thought that when Moulton were given the pen in the last minute that it was all over for us,but fair play to Richie Roberts who saved it, weak or not he went the right way and kept it out.So onwards and only 2 weeks left.(BREATHS SIGH OF RELIEF)Glad you had a good day yesterday Tommy, i did try to contact you but you were probably eating those prawn sandwiches.Thankyou for Saturday Tommy.Regards

[No 3]

Must admit certainly see you as the favourites now and not challengers, we have one very tough away game left and whilst you have two tricky ones think you will be too strong for both sides. Saturday with you down to 9 men with about 25 mins left was the best chance we will have.

[Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4]

sounds like a great game on Sat between PSL and Moulton, was in Scotland at my sis wedding so dont no anything that happened.
Who got sent off for PSL and why? and def sounds like best chance Moulton ever had to wrap up title having 2 man advantage and a last min pen!! so credit where credit is due well done PSL lads!!

[bluestar]

and congratulations to you too Mr Harley - hell of a feat you pulled off, according to the ET you scored for Oundle Reserves on Saturday - with you in Scotland thats probably the longest distance a goal has been scored from in history!!! :lol:

[jon w]

If Saturday's game is crucial to PSL winning the title (still a big if) then Moulton must be in bit's. They had that two man advantage for so long, but unbelievably there bench , which seemed to be full of lot's of chief's didn't put an extra man up front... PSL's 4 at the back and 3 in midfield responded to Tommy's urgings and defended like there lives depended on it, and i must say like a team that wanted it far more than Moulton.

I suppose if the penalty had gone in they could justifiably say they got it right, but like Tommy C said, the two best chances in the 2nd half fell to Gareth Sanderson. Heroic effort from the PSL lads and i do hope a premier league medal very well deserved. Credit must go to Moulton though, like Man Utd and Chelsea, these two teams have hit each other blow for blow throughout the season, and they have both kept going winning games.

[Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4]

Mick i noticed that myself last night cant believe it went in. Thinkin about phoning up the guiness book and seeing if its a world record!! :lol:

[wtfamu]

Credit must go to Moulton though, like Man Utd and Chelsea, these two teams have hit each other blow for blow throughout the season, and they have both kept going winning games.

Not a bad report Jon, it's just from where i was watching there seemed to be more 'blows' landed by PSL than Moulton on Saturday, but i think i know what you meant!

[jon w]

Actually i didn't see any landed but i think there were certainly a few attempts!

Hopefully the referee will use common sense as it was all handbags. In fact i don't think either Jamie or Ben actually struck the Moulton players, so maybe on appeal they will be resinded, to be fair to the ref he handled it all extremely well. Looks like he had a busy weekend!

[jb]

i think it'd have been pretty obvious if ben had struck them! :batr:

[carefree]

well whatever everyone thinks i can say that the report in the ET was well out of order from paul kent! or maybe he is trying to win the title by hoping psl get deducted pts yeah?

a dog ran on the pitch but did not bite anyone!! a toy poodle with a pink bow would have done more damage.

and cr4p about 3 players getting punched!!!! there was a single punch thrown which hit ben lawrence on the back of his head.

and the pitch got cleared within 10-15 seconds of the invasion.

even paul gales account was back 2 front, he dismissed both psl players before it all kicked off.

if it was a bad as Kent made out how come Gale didn't abbandon it?????

HAND BAGS THAT WAS IT.

[bluestar]

C'mon Al, when have you known the local rag ever to tell it as it is ! You couldnt take that paper seriously while Swanny was still sports reporting for them now could you :lol:

[tom flynn]

Totally agree Mick, none of this should detract from the immense job done by the 9 players left on the pitch.Yes 9 players who gave everthing for the cause.They were outstanding, this is about them, nothing else.When i said i totally agree with Mick i just meant about paper talk, i personally think Swannys columns have been awesome for some years now, good,bad or indifferent he is a great fisherman.Sure you know what i mean!!!!

[No 3]

Exactly why we hardly ever say anything to them when asked cause they print what b****cks they want anyway, regardless of what has been actually said.

[tom flynn]

Hi no3, hope your well mate.Do you know what Paul actually said to them?

[carefree]

well i spoke to mark plumber yesterday and he said that he was shocked that paul kent spoke to him! so if thats the case why did he then?

i have nothing but respect for the moulton management they are a good bunch and they always make PSL and myself very welcome when ever we travel to moulton, and as i said before 'if we couldn't win it i would love them too' and i'll stick by that statement.

so come on Darren did you see this dog bite 2 players??? and did you see 3 moulton players punched after ben went after bobby???

we all know the ET twist thing but there is no smoke without fire!

its always going to be a problem when there is a big crowd watching a game of football with out proper crowd control, things got real heated between kislinbury supporters and psl supporters at the cup final as it did with fletton res in theirs, it is our responsability to keep supporters of the pitch but it is almost impossible when there are 200 plus watching with only 3-4 club officals trying to keep the peace. as a club we believe we did a good job clearing the invading supporters from the pitch as quick as we did, and i'm sure all will agree at how well we protected both the moulton team and paul gale after the game just to make sure that nothing started up again. which was successful

[Tommy Trophy]

I think we should be careful of always slagging off the ET for what they print - I think you will find " " around most of the comments every week and I believe they tape the conversations should any dispute or threat of legal action arise.

What they are adept at doing is putting their own slant on what is said, but this after all is their job - by my 3rd year with Ortonians I had become careful in the extreme with what I said (apart from the wind up period!) as to ensure it could not be used in a different context than I had meant (also had media training at work which helped!)

Given my league position it is a bit difficult to comment too much on what happened Saturday, but I am not sure bans are handed out based on quality of punch JW! - it was a bit more than handbags - no real harm was done though - there were fans on BOTH sides that let their clubs down, but a great deal more who lent fantastic support to their teams - there were also poor tackles from a couple of players on both sides, but most of the people on the pitch played the game in a hard but fair manner.

As ever when you have contrasting views the truth sits somewhere in the middle - as Tommy.F said the fall-out from the incident should not detract from the superb job the 9 men left on the pitch did for PSL.

[No 3]

No I didn't see a dog bite 3 players & I didn't see 3 players punched, what I did see was a bookable tackle that started it off & a reaction from your forward. That should have been the end of it, dealt with by the ref & we move on with the game.

When others decided to join in most players went over to try to separate them.

Agree totally that you cannot be responsible for the fans and as you said it was all cleared up pretty quickly.

We had no complaints afterwards just disappointment, we shook hands and all came in for a beer or two.

It was always going to be a feisty game with so much at stake.

[carefree]

jamie defo pushed his head into bobby after the dangerous tackle on him and the rules say red card which is fine. but i thought that the reckless tackle sould have recieved more then a yellow card but thats my opion and not everyone else's, ben ran over as a captain should but said some over the top comments to bobby to which bobby aimed a punch at him. which paul gale admitted to me he missed but was aware it happened. but he did see ben attack bobby and again the rules say a red card. PSL didn't blame paul for the sendings off or even missing bobby's punch, he only gave what he saw. but you can expect all suporting psl or connected to psl to rant and rave over it and give paul gale a hard time, but fair play to paul he was not intimidated by it all, which is to his credit and wins my respect.

the penalty i'll go with tommy cooper as he used to manage at psl and said it was a penalty, so fair enough. i was blinkered to that because i thought it wasn't.

but the save for me was the least bit of luck that we deserved from this 'the most important league game of the season to date'.

and whatever happens on the pitch we can always say that whatever team play at PSL they have always come into the club for a pint or two, and nothing has flared up ever.

what ever happens in the 90 minutes for PSL starts and ends on the pitch.

[Barrel]

I think we should be careful of always slagging off the ET for what they print - I think you will find " " around most of the comments every week and I believe they tape the conversations should any dispute or threat of legal action arise.

What they are adept at doing is putting their own slant on what is said, but this after all is their job - by my 3rd year with Ortonians I had become careful in the extreme with what I said (apart from the wind up period!) as to ensure it could not be used in a different context than I had meant (also had media training at work which helped!)

Given my league position it is a bit difficult to comment too much on what happened Saturday, but I am not sure bans are handed out based on quality of punch JW! - it was a bit more than handbags - no real harm was done though - there were fans on BOTH sides that let their clubs down, but a great deal more who lent fantastic support to their teams - there were also poor tackles from a couple of players on both sides, but most of the people on the pitch played the game in a hard but fair manner.

As ever when you have contrasting views the truth sits somewhere in the middle - as Tommy.F said the fall-out from the incident should not detract from the superb job the 9 men left on the pitch did for PSL.

The "wind up period" you mention, may have cost you the title Tommy when Whittlesey won the league a couple of years back. If ever our lads needed an added incentive to go and beat you on your own back yard in that crucial match just weeks before the season end then they got that with your 'poem' about the Whittlesey squad and town in general that was printed in the local rag.

[Tommy Trophy]

Barrell you are an idiot - what cost us the league that year was getting less points than Whittlesey and Moulton and not what I wrote in a poem - whilst I have a decent sized ego it is not big enough to think that something so trivial could possibly have an impact on where we finished.

It was certainly dissapointing to only win the league, charity shield and PFA cup 2 out of the 3 years during my tenure (sorry and the county senior cup) which is a record that stands examination against the entire history of Whittlesey.

However if you do think that my conduct in the 3 years was material to the success of Ortonians then I suspect that overall I must have been doing something right.

[No 3]

Hi Tom Flynn,

don't know what was actually said, I'm sure some of the things were said but my point was similar to another (mine not very well made) in that the slant they put on things make them seem far worse.

So onto another massive & tough away game for both teams tomorrow.

[tom flynn]

Fully expect two tough games myself but all the best to you anyway.

[bluestar]

Barrel "your an idiot" - didnt I tell you not to take the rise out of the great and the good!

Only joking buddy, didnt think I would see the day when a young up and coming manager would get a rise out of Cooperman so easily :lol:

Did he say he had a decent sized ego? Monumental sized would describe it better - no problem with that Tommy, each to his own, just a pity that the mighty Ortonians are no more - and us mere also rans in Whittlesey still keep rolling along :mnn:

Barrel you have passed the final exam with flying colours, nice one :clap:

[Tommy Trophy]

As bites go Mick it was a pretty decent response though - mind you as you say I do have a decent sized ego so would think that - derogatary comment re Whittlesey achievements merely used to emphasise point and should not be seen as a slur against a club I have a lot of time for and could never beat at Home for some reason (pre poem - poem and post poem) - I don't want another fatwah put on me by the 6 finger brigade

[Barrel]

Thanks for the compliment Tommy. Yes Whittlesey did gain more points than Ortonians throughout the season due to the fact that we were the best team in the leage that season by a country mile. In my opinion your comments printed in the local rag of 'Whittlesey have never been in this position before, they may blow it, Ricky is a hothead blah blah blah' was a major factor in driving our boys on to ensure that they proved you wrong and put that bit between their teeth to end the season so strongly.

'whilst I have a decent sized ego' - You Tommy??? No never......................

Regards, Barrel

[Tommy Trophy]

Maybe I should start insulting Whittlesey again then, because they made a crap job of defending the title and blew up early this year after a great start!

Barrell a further compliment on your memory - I am sure I probably said those things, because they sound like what I might use, and were true at the time - have you got clippings of all of my reports?

[matt leftley]

If he has got them soot him.
Just wondering tommy other than your recent success at Ortonians what else is on your managers C.V

[Tommy Trophy]

Same old same old Matt really - 2 Leagues, 2 League Cups, 2 County Cups, 4 Promotions quite a few semi-finals etc. etc. but don't really like to go on about it - this thread is about Tommy Flynn's birthday don't forget!

[matt leftley]

"It was certainly dissapointing to only win the league, charity shield and PFA cup 2 out of the 3 years during my tenure (sorry and the county senior cup) which is a record that stands examination against the entire history of Whittlesey"

sorry i must have got side tracked some how !!!!!!!!

[bluestar]

Tommy that epitomises why football is such a great game - I don't measure my success by the pots and cups won - In nearly 30 years of local football management, for me, its about creating team spirit, enjoyment etc- and I measure my management success by the craic and the friends (played against Mr Flynn many times ,happy birthday Tommy, hope you get the league as a belated birthday prezzie) and team mates I have made.
Take my hat off to you, Mr Cooper, I would never have been able to manage a premier team, see football, for me, isnt about pot hunters, prima donna's and guys who boast a dozen teams on their CV's -that's also why when my teams have won leagues or cups ( and yes we did win a couple) - the success has been extra special - most of the old Blue Star team began and ended playing together in the same team, and the current Whittlesey Reserve side has six lads who began playing for me at under 9.

It takes all sorts Tom, success can be measured in many ways - bottom line for me is that however much time I have put in has been repaid 100 times over. :beer:

[Tommy Trophy]

Totally agree Mick and I put something similar on here last year around only 1 team being able to win the league, but that does not make the other 15 failures - not sure why Mr Leftley was interested in my CV and I am sure it was going to be going somewhere?

There are many different definitions of success such as longivety, which you and Whittlesey certainly have and bringing players through who go onto play higher etc. as well as providing a vibrant club for the local community

Does your post count as a little bite by the way!

[bluestar]

touche Tommy - course it does, only a little bite mind! work commitments prevented me remaining on the league committee, mores the pity, never say never though, would love to get involved again, time permitting. Whilst I dont always agree with what they might say (democracy) have the utmost respect for guys such as Graham, Mike, Mark etc cos I know they love football as much as I do.
expecting big things from you TC dont let us down. :nwy: