2006/2007 run-in [Archive] - Peterborough Sports Talk

Hyypia

26-02-2007, 14:11

So with 10 games to go (for most teams) the league is starting to take shape. Can only really be considered a 2 horse race for the title. 3rd place is becoming interesting with 4 teams within a point of each other (Fletton, Perkins, us and Whittlesey) plus it's hotting up at the bottom with 5 teams (Oundle, Bels, Drove, Long Sutton & Wimblington) within 5 points of each other.

How do Moulton's and PSL's remaining games compare? One is against each other I believe.

Cham1

26-02-2007, 18:42

10/03/2007 Moulton Harrox v Crowland Town
24/03/2007 Moulton Harrox v Uppingham Town
31/03/2007 Moulton Harrox v AFC Fletton
07/04/2007 Wimblington FC v Moulton Harrox
14/04/2007 Whittlesey United v Moulton Harrox
28/04/2007 Leverington Sports v Moulton Harrox
05/05/2007 Peterborough Sports v Moulton Harrox

03/03/2007 Peterborough Sports v Long Sutton Athletic
10/03/2007 Peterborough Sports v Alconbury
24/03/2007 Leverington Sports v Peterborough Sports
31/03/2007 Whittlesey United v Peterborough Sports
07/04/2007 Peterborough Sports v Perkins Sports
14/04/2007 Peterborough Sports v Pinchbeck United
21/04/2007 Parson Drove v Peterborough Sports
28/04/2007 Uppingham Town v Peterborough Sports
05/05/2007 Peterborough Sports v Moulton Harrox
TBA AFC Fletton v Peterborough Sports
(All fixture dates are provisional and are subject to change)

26-02-2007, 18:53

5th of may looks like it could be a juicy game. potentially a fantastic exciting final game to decide the league. winner takes all scenario should draw one of the biggest crowds seen at a prem league game for a very long time!

Celtic 2, The Mighty Gers 4

26-02-2007, 20:53

5th of may is now in my diary, hopefully will be title decider. PSL had better get lots of beers in :beer: . Remember Whittlesey Utd game when they one league against Stamford couple of years ago and had nearly 500 people there. :pty:

spec

27-02-2007, 09:07

I think the league will be decided before the 5th May gentlemen, there will be fixture changes before then and a few night games as well.
The end of March will give a good idea after a few more results and by then we will see who will be handling the pressure and who won't, Moulton and PSL also clash in the semi's of the cup during March which will have a big effect as to which way the league goes believe me.

spec

27-02-2007, 10:57

bluestar

27-02-2007, 11:24

Spec - heard on Saturday that the game between Moulton and Perkins won't be replayed,so the result will stand. We had a game abandoned, due to injury, and the same will apply to that game

Hyypia

27-02-2007, 11:25

Got your snorkel and speedos ready for Saturday Spec? :bst:

spec

27-02-2007, 11:39

Cheers Mick, would have thought something as important as that would have been mentioned on here earlier.
Hyypia, if you called last weeks game off because of the pitch then we are in trouble 'cos we've already had more rain today than the whole of last week :lol:
We should have Woodlands as a back up really, in fact I am going to sort that out now, can't be doing with any more games put back

Hyypia

27-02-2007, 12:43

No complaints from me. We've already missed 4 games in 2007!

spec

27-02-2007, 13:08

Anymore rain and that's not available either, they wouldn't let posh train today so it doesn't look good, god knows what state yours will be in then.

Hyypia

27-02-2007, 15:40

I'll let you know after training tonight. Might take some rice seeds down there and see what i can grow! :lol:

spec

27-02-2007, 16:20

Rice :soo: :lol:

Hyypia

27-02-2007, 17:25

..........cos it's like a paddy field

Cham1

27-02-2007, 20:40

I've just worked out that if Moulton only have 7 games left but are showing 8 in the league table then they have definitely been awarded the Perkins game that got abandoned, is that correct Mr Chambers ? putting them 10 points in front with PSL having 3 games in hand

That was the decision at the last committee meeting, although not on the league minutes as yet. Neither has the result appeared on the website hence I have done my report accordingly. Will know more at the next league meeting. I like you believe that the title will be settled before 5th May as fixtures are almost certainly likely to be amended. It could still go down to the game between Peterborough Sports and Moulton Harrox. However Moulton look unbeatable at present. Having said that you have a good record at Moulton since you took over so you may yet put a spanner in the works. The cup on the 17th will have a huge bearing on the outcome as you say.

Also how much will the fact that Sports are in the county cup final affect their chances.

tom flynn

27-02-2007, 23:33

Hopefully no effect whatsoever Mark, we should get in another 5 or 6 games before that and if the players dont work hard in those games they will not be playing in that final.We have a squad of 18 players who can all play in that final and we only need 15 so the ball is in their court.No grafting equals no place..........Simple as that.

carefree

28-02-2007, 11:10

i agree with flynny paul (woops mark).

if we don't win anything it will be because we were not good enough to do it.

it is a big job to haul back 10pts with 3 games in hand, taking into account that 1 is v moulton, but i know if we play how we can it is something we can do. midweek games will suit us also as we can field a stronger side then we currently have.

the feelings in our camp are very strong.

Cham1

28-02-2007, 20:59

Abosolutely guys and I wish you all the best on allm three fronts. Whatever the outcome you have both moved the club forward greatly this season and should be both pleased and proud of what you have achieved. When is the final?

carefree

28-02-2007, 22:43

we still don't know, there is a county meeting tonight, but no date will be set as they still haven't got the venue sorted. they are trying to get rushden & diamonds. (rumours has it they want £2,000)

if anyone wants to go on the coach PM me (now i know how it works lol) and i'll sort your place for you.

carefree

28-02-2007, 22:47

p.s i ve also been told that we only get 3 free tickets ( good job no one wants to bring the girlfriends eh?

Sports Sec

04-03-2007, 23:07

Can someone tell me how much time was left before Perkins Vs Moulton got abandoned?

spec

05-03-2007, 08:38

There was fluctuating reports (as usual) Brian, I think the official verdict was 20 minutes :soo:

Big G

05-03-2007, 11:55

The match was abandoned with 23 minutes left. (refs report)

spec

05-03-2007, 12:27

Strange decision to let the result stand with that amount remaining Gino, what was your reaction to that ?

Big G

05-03-2007, 12:36

Not a happy one. cant say to much mate.

carragher

05-03-2007, 13:43

thats different to what was said after the game gino. Alex came into the dressing room after and appologised to Moulton and said he hopes we get the points. Also was told that you wrote a letter to the FA stating that Moulton should be awarded the game? Moulton DESERVE to be awarded the points for that game!!!

05-03-2007, 20:41

no-one deserves to win a game that still has a quarter of a game left :stpd:

Cham1

05-03-2007, 22:34

What would have been the correct way to deal with this then?.

Would it have been fair to replay the game and deny Moulton Harrox a winning position and give Perkins the opportunity to claim all three points in any replay. Given that at the time of the original game Perkins were struggling for form, whereas they are not now.

What must not be forgotten here is that it was a Perkins player who caused the game to be abandoned in the first place. Whilst the club may not have had the ability to stop the player from his action I can not see how there could be a fairier way of deciding how to deal with the scenario without punishing the side who were leading. If it had been decided to replay the game what sort of signal would that have sent out. For example In the future a team could be losing a vital game so one of their players hits the ref, game abandoned and replay ordered. Where would the justice be in that?. I must stress that I am not saying that this is what happened in this game, but I sure you will understand my point.

05-03-2007, 22:54

thats true but a player is hardly gonna go to those extremes to get a game replayed are they?!

the unique thing about football is that anything could happen at any time which a big reason why we all love the game. its true that probably 90% of the time moulton would've gone on to win this game and probably more comfortably but whether they had a disadvantage with regards to player dismissals or not there was still plenty of time for ANYTHING to have happened. i agree circumstances now show that giving moulton the points is probably the fairest thing to do but if this matter was dealt with and a decision made immediately rather than heels getting dragged over the matter then the final 23 mins or total game could've been replayed within weeks, with a high chance of same players available and teams more than likely in the same form.

how fair is it to moultons title rivals that they were let off 23 mins of defending a lead? their title rivals didn't cause the game to be abandoned. could the game have continued after it had calmed down as i know the player in question would have been right out of the way.

carefree

06-03-2007, 00:26

i ve got to add to this one, with 23 mins on the clock (ref's report) anything could have happened! moulton could have had 2 players sent off and concided 3 goals.

it affects our club and with so much left on the clock we shall be asking for the game to be replayed as im sure moulton would expect the same if a game with 23 mins left v us got stopped. perkins have been punished with a fine and george has been banned . letters will be sent to both the league and county from us in protest.

i heard that the league said there was only 9 minutes left! is this true mark?

No 3

06-03-2007, 09:25

On the day, the game could've carried on five minutes after the incident took place (bearing in mind the incident has been blown totally out of proportion), both sides wanted to carry on and personnel from both sets of management tried to convince the ref to do so, however the ref would not change his mind.

How then would it be fair to make Moulton replay a full 90 minute game through no fault of their own, I appreciate it's not the majority of Perkins fault as well but as a team you have to accept the actions of your players as a unit, hence the apology to Moulton after the game and the statement that the points should be awarded to us.

Big G

06-03-2007, 11:34

The last 23 minutes should be played at Perkins with Moulton still 2 nil up. Thats the only fair way??

Chris Judge

06-03-2007, 11:45

Over the years most games have been played again when abandoned with the game still unfinished.
I think Mark's point about players deliberately attacking the referee to have a game abandoned is a little far fetched. After all what player wants a sine die ban and I hope the league's decision was not reached because of that suggestion.
Had Perkins been leading the game and a Moulton player sent off and the game abandoned would not Moulton want the game replayed. I think so
With 23 minutes left the game has to be replayed it does not matter if Perkins were in a rut then and in better form now
Who is to say that Perkins would not have gone on to force a draw. We are talking about football and anything can happen
It is a blow for PSL and their title hopes too but tomorrow night an even bigger decision could rule them out when the league elders decide on the postponement of the Perkins game at PSL and a possible deduction of points
It does seem the title is being decided at the Chesnut offices and not on a playing field this year

Mick B

06-03-2007, 11:46

Seems like a fair suggestion buddy, Makes sense still gives a major preference to Moulton, which is fair and gives Perkins that denied 23mins to make something happen. You're not just a pretty face Gino. :nwy:

carefree

06-03-2007, 12:03

sorry but the rules will be applied here to the letter.

many games in the past have been stopped for one reason or another and i think you will find the whole game has been replayed in each and every case, and this should be done and im sure will be.

so do you think it is right to be awarded the league title when you have played 22 and a half of your seasons 30 games and you are top of the league (% ? as it is possible that if you get away without playing this game again (which i doubt) i for one would state that you are not true campions if you were to win the league by 3, 2, 0r even 1 pt from anyone else.

play it again, win it again and then hold your heads up and be proud.

sorry but there was 23 minutes left, a very long time in football.

we will make a protest to the highest level love us or hate us for it. any team in the some positon as us would do the same thing.

No 3

06-03-2007, 12:47

We can already hold our heads up as we have done nothing wrong! We are not in a position to make any decisions off the pitch that will affect the outcome. We will play our remaining games the best we can and see what happens

Big G

06-03-2007, 13:33

Agree with number 3, Moulton have done nothing wrong and if they do win the league it will not be because of these 3 points but the whole season.

At the same time 23 minutes is 23 minutes and that i think should be played?

pufc stalwart

06-03-2007, 18:02

Interesting reading this one. I think this is a classic case of damned if you are right and damned if you are wrong. Everyone seems to think that Moulton have gained everything from this decision. But seeing as the league table is very tight and the goal difference between Moulton and PSL is very tight as well, it may just well turn out that the league could be decided on goal difference, and Moulton may look at the lost 23 mins as a lost opportunity to score more.

carragher

06-03-2007, 18:20

The referee should always be protected and the fact that a Perkins player was sent off and then attacked the ref for the decision in inexcusable. I believe it is fair to award Moulton the 3 points if only to show a strong stance against this sort of intimidation towards any referee especially if we want objective decisions from them without the fear of physical intimidation. This is the fairest and best decision the FA should come to.

Does your fair decision of playing the remaining 23 minutes include playing with 10 men?