AGM this Sunday then...

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the Saturday lads are already active after their AGM.. loads of transfer rumours and banter on who's going where..

Hoping our leagues are just as active after Sunday, shows how strong Peterborough football is with everyone dying for the new season already and the World Cup is only half done..

Perkins Tournament should be a good one...
and a laugh watching all the managers trying to sign anyone who looks half decent!!!
errr that'll be me for one then?

:beer:

[Lee]

Anything good happen then at the meeting then? Whats outcome of league formats.

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interesting stuff... many clubs were unhappy at the new leagues...

Prem down to 8 and fair play to the guy from Netherton at putting his views across for why thats bad for P'boro footy...
He mentioned that there are only 4 clubs based in PETERBOROUGH that play Sat footy yet Sundays have nearly ALL P'BORO based clubs yet we get very little recognition...

The PSMFL have gone for 8 teams in the Prem and 4 leagues of 9 below that.

some strange calls.
The Star Inn have gone DOWN to div 4 after missing out on Goal Diff on the Div 3 title last season??? the league claim they have lost a lot of players errrr yeah right....
and then they say ALL the Star Inn players have gone to a new team which they put into Div 3 again anyway??
Some clubs were bumped up 2 leagues without notice, we were one of them but they've seen sense and just moved us up one as of today!
Woodview were demoted from the prem but said they wanted to stay and why weren't they asked etc???
Limetree 1st disbanded so the Reserve team become their 1st's and move up 3 Divs..
PNE thrown out by vote

The PSMFL were bombarded by un-happy clubs at the end and will have their work cut out keeping everyone happy.

All in all though, everyone looking forward to the new season.

[eddie c s]

lol take it that guy would be my dad then ol

8 teams hey . gee cant wait for a team to fold so all teams can look forward to ther 12 games this season ...im my opinion sounds like a joke to me . dont concern me though as it seems like a good time to be injured for the last year . only miss 12 league games this season . bonus

[Sport4all]

:mnn: PSMFL AGM - Someday someone will listen to whats being said without trying to implement their own agenda.
It was suggested by the PSMFL that 8 teams was enough for the Prem division because the likes of the Oak, Jubilee, L Westwood if they turn up and can stand up, 252, Netherton etc with their abundance of "Star" names will be in upto the final rounds of most cup competitions and will probably play over 30 games in the season.
Fair play to Woodview who took some right old pastings last year but stood up to it all and want another go. Perhaps, just perhaps they might surprise one or two.
Good old Ron stood up and said his bit. No hidden agenda's with Mr S he just loves his footie.
I was pleasantly surprised at the number of offers to go on the committee after all the inconsiderate slagging off by the unmentionables. Without Hotpoint club to drink in it was thought a new audience might suit the Spec almighty... but not a hand was rised or a nomination forwarded....

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I think most people listened without an Agenda...
It's just most see 8 teams in a league as too few whatever the level, if you work hard at running a team and playing for a team you want more than 14 league games in a season...
Only so many in that league will go far in cups leaving the rest finished by Xmas if they lose a couple of league games!!!
How can that be percieved as good for our game??? :soo:

The guy from Netherton made a great suggestion of having 4 leagues of 11 or so...
Yeah it'd be hard for several teams in the top flight against the Oak etc but it would level out eventually I reckon!!!
If one or 2 teams fold or drop out again this year from ANY division then that league is OVER!!! and I for one will be 1st in the que asking for a refund of fees paid and compensation for time/money spent if it happens in our league (fingers crossed it doesn't).

enough doom though.... the PSMFL for their most part do work hard and most of them really do want it to work out for the best!!!!
Just maybe one day they'll actually ask ALL of the clubs they serve what they actually think and act for the majority...
The Woodview case proved on the day that they had no interest in speaking with them and asumed they wanted to go down without picking up the phone and asking them 1st,
Their manager was p*ssed off to say the least to be told on the day without prior knowledge...
It was compounded by the PSMFL stating that NO club would want to go up to the prem and thats why they cut the numbers... errrr Woodview wanted to stay up so thats 1 straight away!!!

good debate though and its good to see people raring to go for next season already.....

[Sport4all]

I know BOTN listened I watched his table with some interest especially when ALL the committee was voted for
Not a hand was raised against Mr T. Everyone agrees Nick is a bit outspoken but he does love the game. How many of you would ref in the pouring rain on a cold Monday night in January for around 4 hours non stop to give players a game of football?????
Yes I also agree leagues of 11 or 12 would be more interesting. The main problem is the old one - not enough ref's. On weekends when the PFA/Counties take refs for their cup games the PSMFL is normally void of that number of refs (just ask Paul Redgate). therefore games have to be cancelled. 11 or 12 teams in a division will take up 20 Sundays out of around 34, PFA/County cups will take up another 5 or 6 each for the sucessful teams, take another 5 or 6 off for bad weather/cannot raise a team/stag parties/christenings/weddings/bank holidays and suddenly there are not enough Sundays. with 30+ refs a full league programme except for teams in cups could be played but they only have a core total of around 16 refs according to PR. So the problem is there, the answer is in the clubs hands - get a ref you can call on at a moments notice to ref your game when the PFA nick your designated ref for a cup match - get every club in the league to do the same and bingo 11 teams in a league.
Last word on Refs congrats to Paul McVey may we find many more like him.
Until then 16 league games a season is all you are going to get. Support your league and its committee, join them or offer them fresh ideas they may elcome both with open arms, but don't decry them for doing a job nobody else wants to do for 3 hours on one Tuesday a month.
It would be a lot more interesting if most of the footballing talent in this city was spread around more clubs. I fail to see the reason apart from playing with mates, of a player travelling from Whittlesey, hypothetically, to go to Baston to play for Deeping.
Jeremy Sperryn had a great little side playing together 2 or 3 seasons ago, REC Whittlesey I think, died on its feet when players got old. How many lads in Whittlesey travel into Peterborough or beyond to play.
Local football - local people. Lost to football for good. Jeremy again was outspoken but his heart is in the right place.
Well done to Woodview for offring to stay up, but once again as with all leagues it is accepted that the bottom team normally gets relegated. Their manger MUST have known there was a possibility his team would drop a division. HE COULD HAVE RUNG NICK AS WELL AS NICK RINGING HIM. West Town are a side I think could hold their own in the Prem but they would have to move grounds to play in it. Unless they want to put washing facilities etc in.
I see the leagues were in the press last night, spare a thought for the Farcet boys who have moved (willingly I understand) up to Div one to give parity to the leagues and really must have given up hope before the season starts of being very sucessful because teams more capable wouldn't move up. They have lost almost half of last years squad to the New Shoes, but the boys that are left seem the sort you can build a squad on, I wish them all the best.
No doubt the pot hunters will now look for a side in a division they think they can win and sign on for that team. Nobody wants to win Div 4 except the teams already down there I hope they have a good season too and there are no Lime Tree res like teams hiding in the woodwork

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errr Sport4all??? which PSMFL member is it then lads??
answers on a postcard :lol:

I fail to see the argument of refs if we have 11 teams in a league?
You simply go from 5 down to 4 leagues and increase to 11 teams..
still 44 teams approx..
So it would still be the same amount of games to organise and ref surely????

As for voting for the PSMFL, it's cyrstal clear that nobody else wants the jobs so it's pointless voting against anyone in the position already....
Plus the way it's done doesnt really give anyone the chance to object, it's block voting and people already on the committee propose and 2nd it - errrr surely that cant be right can it? John Prince is a top bloke but he shouldn't be voting on things if he sits on the PSMFL, neither should The Star Inn guy (cant recall his name) and they somehow managed to be demoted after finishing joint top - conspiracy?
thats not to say we dont value their work because we do, it's just not really worth discussing until we get more people seriously contesting roles on the PSMFL and willing to give up their time to improve things..
I'm sure Mr T was looking over at certain tables when the vote was called for though :lol: :lol: :lol:

[spec]

[quote]Without Hotpoint club to drink in it was thought a new audience might suit the Spec almighty... but not a hand was rised or a nomination forwarded....

now then sport4all, I like to think I am quite academic but I am struggling to understand what you meant by this as there are several ways of interpreting it (i don't mean to appear thick or perhaps it's because it's early in the morning) if you could explain which context you are using it in then I will do my best to try and reply, many thanks.

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So then Spec.... is it your good self behind the New Shoes then?
I see they've been put into Div 2 (I think) ....


I presume Sport4all was trying to hint that maybe you'd have gone for a PSMFL position and maybe even that of Mr T's (just my own opinion before we start that one again lads) ???
But I guess he should clarify that one himself!!!

[Sport4all]

:nwy: I'm not insinuating Spec is thick or whatever, but he seemed to take graet pride in advertising he was the fella standing at Hotpoint bar on a Saturday.
I though he might fancy standing at the Phone Inn bar every 4th Tuesday and giving the PSMFL committee his imput.
I gather the beer is bloody cheap as well. Less than £1-30 a pint I'm told. Now there's an incentive.......
BOTN is barking up the wrong tree but if there is sport to watch I'll watch it, with few exceptions -Netball - boules - darts without beer - synchronised drowning sorry swimming - show jumping and anything too horsey and so on.
I will try to explain again the shortage of referees - |It is not those that turn up it is those that have to officiate elsewhere
Just say the league have 20 referees at their beck and call - that means 20 games go on
Now Counties/PFA call upon 15 for their cup games - league lose 15 fixtures that weekend. If you have an 4 x 11 team leagues adds up to 20 games a season + 5 put a side for cup rounds and 5 or 6 Sundays for other problems as stated previouslyequals 30 to 32 Sundays - the season is only 34 Sundays long. With leagues of 11 where do you fit in the cancelled games.
With a league of 9 teams giving only 16 league games there are a few sundays left over for re-arranged fixtures and still last season some Div 4 games were being played midweek, easy points being gained, easy points thrown away.
The answer is as I stated before referees and more referees.
My team are trying to find one - can 43 others

[Sport4all]

:gun: Re the AGM - Star Inn guy is Richard the fines bloke - doesn't that make us all love him a little bit more. I think they were demoted because Parkway FC took ALL their players except for the pub regulars. They only signed on for Star last season because the Railway FC folded. The Star team this season would, if promoted as they should have been, have had some almighty thrashings which makes the league look bad, the teams they play against wodering why they bother to turn up to watch their forwards smacking in goals galore, change round at halftime the goalie goes centre forward and score 4 or 5 the opposition think this is taking the **** and the team fold Div 1 all over again.
Princey will be pleased when I tell him what you've said about him - when I see him - He's a bit poorly at the moment, 45 years of smoking he puts it down to.
It was fairly obvious nobody wanted to come on the committee but I'll propose you if you fancy at least having a go - you can alway back out if you don't like it - but at least you will have tried.........
Best of Luck in the new season

[spec]

I wasn't implying that you thought I was thick sport4all, just thinking perhaps I was thick for not grasping your comment !!
Back of the net, it is not me behind the new shoes, I do not have the time or the (see next paragraph !)

sport4all, I have played in the sunday morning football league since I was a mere boy and have great memories etc etc, i managed a team in it for a while and carried on playing so I have a lot of fondness for it, but I can assure you I would not have any involvement as a player (still fit and a finely tuned athlete) or manager as long as a certain individual is still sat on that commitee.
I take on board what you have said in your earlier postings about the 'bigger clubs' in the Prem getting to the final stages of cup comps and all that but it is just another smokescreen from the hierarchy to cover up their failings. I said the PSMFL was in freefall about 4 or 5 months ago and the findings of the latest AGM do nothing to change that view.
The bottom line is ANOTHER STEP BACKWARDS !!

PSMFL Commitee GET YOUR TITS OUT (in my opinion)

[Sport4all]

In reference to Specs last line comment about Mens tit, does that mean he's into hairy breasts
I would lay off the hormone treatment spec.....

[Hyypia]

Very witty Spec (and ambiguos too). Must have took you ages to think of that one! :lol: I love a bit of harmless banter

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Mr Prince is a top guy, nothing against him at all, it's just that if you're on the PSMFL you should not be voting for things they put forward... it's a blatant conflict of interest!

Spec, there goes my theory then!!! New Shoes must have a fair few decent lads in the team hence Div 2 for their 1st season! best of luck with Fletton FC for the coming season..

Sport4all... sorry mate... again my theory is blown out the water :lol: ..
the guy from Star Inn must be gutted losing all his players..
Good to see the banter for Sunday mornings getting going already lads.
oh and thanks for the offer Sport4all but as I said before - nobody wants a position on the PSMFL with the way its run (and certain people on it) so it's pointless trying to put people forward however good/bad you think they'd be at it......
We're in year 4 of the AMAZING 5 year plan of Mr T so after next season we'll be 100% sorted and have no problems at all so no reason to join and try to help is there :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[jb]

just came back off of holiday to read this thread and the first thing that came to my mind was the issue of referees. i still dont see where having smaller leagues helps this issue.

another thing the new shoes-are they practically the same yaxley side from a few years ago? if so they folded leaving the psmfl in the sh*t so if it is more or less the same club why are they being allowed back in the league?

P.S. cristiano ronaldo and his portugal chums you are a bunch of dirty cheating w*nkers!!!!!!!

oh and good luck on your return to man utd(rooney,neville and ferguson would like a word!)

[Hyypia]

You forgot Rio JB. Totally gutted over the result as i expect the whole nation are. If we lose fair and square then it wouldn't be so bad, but we always get a** raped by the referees and dirty cheating bar stewards!!

[jb]

i didn't mention him cos he wasn't in his face during the game dying to rip his head off!! well gutted though and i hope he stays at man u so he gets the sh*t he deserves. and i'm sure he'll be as safe walking around manchester than bin laden at a BNP rally!!

dont mind losing fair and square but when you feel cheated out of a result(as we always seem to!) its a very bitter pill to swallow.

[Sport4all]

:beer: BOTN If there are people on your committee, it is your committee, they represent you. If you don't like what they are doing surely it's better to tackle the problem from within

On a completely different subject should we all be complimenting the portuguese show pony for his performance on the Sunday league pages. Shouldn't the moderator have a seperate index where we can all express our opinions on the cheating little b*****d, and then send it to his website. May he leave the Theatre of Dreams for a lot holier place where diving is part of the training regime whether its in Madrid, Valencia or Milan... oops sorry they won't be in their Premier Liga will they.
We are now down to the last 4 and what have we left
Germany - manager was the best diver ever, another country picking their own refs or picking refs they own. they waste more time than I do using this site but at least its a giggle
Italy -a team who will all be looking for a transfer soon if the authoritie in Spag land have got the guts to do whats right . Cheats from bottom to top of their system
Portugal - need I say more - Dirty Cheating players :stpd:
France - I hear Onry sorry Henry to us English speaking people is wearing a fencing mask for the semi's to stop any arms across his chest invisibly striking him a knockout blow in the face or thereabouts
But we musn't blame players on £70,000+ a week for pretending. They live in a dream world where they only come out to play on a Saturday afternoon unless Sky want them on a Sunday or Monday - lets give the refs some stick.
As far as I can see as an attacker you can't touch anyone in the penalty box.
If you hurt your ankle go down holding you face - game stops
If the ball hits you anywhere near the arm OUTSIDE the penalty area it is hand ball but not inside
Defenders may use their hands and arms to change the path of the ball/wrestle down opponents who are beating them within the penalty box.
Shalln't mention 2 yellows SHOULD equal a red or thousands of calls from all over the world saying how good he was
This world cup is over for me the cheats have won they can have it . A trophy is worthless if not won in the correct manner, and so we now wait for the premier league to start........
:stpd:

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:beer: BOTN If there are people on your committee, it is your committee, they represent you. If you don't like what they are doing surely it's better to tackle the problem from within


my guess - Sport4all is Mr Prince ??? no worries if you'd rather not say mate.....
As I've said before no-one (including myself) wants to join the PSMFL just now for their own reasons.

I'm sure someone said on this site months back that about 5 years ago the PSMFL had several great people on board that had EVERYONES backing (teams etc) but they all left citing a particualr person and that they didn't want to work with him (in my own opinion - blah blah blah)
And then that certain person (I believe) offered their resignation from the PSMFL over an incident last season but the committee declined it, what chance has anyone got of changing things from within if chances like that are turned away, the PSMFL would have to WANT to change themselves 1st...
It's clear that they are all backing each other and thats why there's a shortage of applicants to join - perhaps?

Most people I'd suggest are happy with the majority and the work they put in for us all, if the amazing 5 year plan works (what is it anyway? does anyone know?) then there's no need to interfere is there? :lol:

World Cup:
England and their Manager were just not good enough, hyped up as usual pre-tournament and then gutted when knocked out again...
Get a decent manager, push through the ruling of a minum quota of English players per top team, practice taking Penalties for f*cks sake......

http://uk.download.yahoo.com/pr/fu/oa/grahampoll4dv.jpg

[Sport4all]

:nwy: BOTN - getting warm - he gives me the bullets :gun:
signing off
Anon E Mouse

[tom flynn]

Personally in my opinion Sport for all.Nobody gives a hoot who you are.If you havnt got the balls to give your real identity then sod off and bore somebody else.

[Hyypia]

Go Tommy, Go Tommy, Go :pty2:

[Ross]

Personally in my opinion Sport for all.Nobody gives a hoot who you are.If you havnt got the balls to give your real identity then sod off and bore somebody else.

A bit harsh there Tom, for whats its worth, i do know who it is, but its not my place to say. Lets keep this civil

[tom flynn]

What is printed is civil Ross.Its what you mods removed that wasnt :lol: At the end of the day why dont people just say who they are instead of hiding behind a name. By the way if its harsh, then tough. :mnn:

[Sport4all]

I suppose thats what becomes of using my fathers e-mail address. At least his and my brothers team won't be reffed by Mr Flynn, bit low for him. I joined this website for a bit of banter and to see what my dad was always going on about. He loves his football, he loves his sport, but there are people who just love to ruin it. I don't know how he puts up with some of them. I don't need Mr Flynns animosity and hopefully neither does anyone else
Enjoyed the banter with Spec and BOTN hope both your teams have a good season.
Speak to you all again sometime........
S4A

[tom flynn]

No animosity at all, like many others on this site i say what i think thats all.We all love our sport but maybe some people are more open and honest about what happens within it.It shouldnt be a "closed shop" but im afraid it is.I hope i have sorted that out for you and hope you understand.

[Sport4all]

*roolz* So my lads been carrying on converstions with the "big" names on Sport talk. I originally ask him to log on for me to see whether I could engender some interest in reffing (see £14-66 an hour). spotted a few unfounded mistakes whilst browsing and ask him to correct them, my one finger typing takes too long.......
He enjoyed talking to people he had only heard me talk about. Un fortunately someone always takes the fun out of it
I shall still read the postings with regularity but probably won't answer.
Especially for the PSMFL all the answers are in the size and age of the committee and the minutes that follow every meeting. None of us are in it for personal gain or because we like abuse. Football needs to organized and thats what we try and do, not always sucessfully but we try.
Some tried and resigned for their own reasons, not always what they tell others, but at least they tried.
Thanks Rick for trying put my point across
adios all the season will soon be starting and I have meetings to go to
Princey (Sport4all mark2) :nwy:

[tom flynn]

Quote. "Unfortunatelysomeone always takes the fun out of it" What a laugh. :lol: Lets guees who, (he)(they) are . All of Peterborough football knows :lol:

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Mr Prince,

Nearly all the PSMFL are very well respected :nwy: and do stirling work, we are always greatful of that....

BUT:
We dont have to accept and like everyone there, it's fairly clear a fair few people dont get on with everyone on the PSMFL (certain someone maybe :lol: ) but that doesnt mean we want to cause trouble or dont want the best for local football etc...
It's an old argument and one not worth bothering to much about mate, year 4 of the amazing 5 year plan is upon us (again, does anyone know what it is?) so nothing to worry about!

Oh and we all know you're not in it for financial gain... some are in it for the power trip perhaps ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Hyypia]

Does the term 'flogging a dead donkey' come to mind?

[Sport4all]

Had to answer BOTN, I've always been John or princey wish to remain that way. Thanks for you advice.
Sayonara

[spec]

Young sport4all, keep posting on the site, don't be put off my Big Tommy Flynn, his barks worse than his bite, he's quite a soppy sod when you get to know him ay Thomas !! You can never get too much heaven......

Old sport4all, you should know better, can't believe you bit !!

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I've always been John or princey wish to remain that way

:lol: unless its my son or his mate or anyone else using my account.... :lol: :lol:
sorry mate couldn't help it...

I think?? Hypia was pointing out that we've all discussed the PSMFL and certain members within it etc etc a while ago and it went on for ages with no end result, time to move on!!

best of luck for the new season for everyone involved in Sunday morning footy... lets hope we can bring more silverware back to P'boro from Northants.. Netherton did well last time and hard luck to Racing252 and EMAP in their finals.

Perkins tournament Sunday looks like it'll be a great event, can't wait to kick a ball again.

[tom flynn]

Young Sportforall.My intention was not to put you off posting on this board so by all means carry on.Maybe sometimes you are to close to the action of certain individuals and being spoon fed what THEY want you to hear.People who run the PSMFL should not in my opinion go hiding behind trees and skulking in corners on a Sunday morning.People and players would think more of them if they made themselves known.Some people have worked tirelessly over the years to run our Sunday football and i respect them,others :lol: .............End of.